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re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2"
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:15 pm to mizzoukills
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:15 pm to mizzoukills
Got to keep in mind that the sun has set by 5:00. I assumed that's when he saw the fake Santa, went to a 5:30 church service, and was back in his house by 6:00, which would give him 3 hours to prepare. I think its plausible he could rig all that in 3 hours, although the house may have burned down as you pointed out.
You're forgetting that Kevin is a brilliant sociopath. He just doesn't give a frick.
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4) He starts to make himself dinner at the very moment the bad guys are planning to show up. The clock chimes at the moment he's sitting down to eat. What an idiot. Why even make dinner at that moment? It's go time, Kevin! Are you telling me that Kevin wasn't the least bit nervous. He's calmly sitting there about ready to enjoy a meal when the clock chimes, at which point his eyes grow big and then he flips the frick out. Doesn't make sense.
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On top of that, how would a kid Kevin's age know how to tie a proper rope knot? More than likely he would've tied a poor knot which would've resulted in his death fall from the 2nd floor window...or at least broken legs or a crushed spine.
You're forgetting that Kevin is a brilliant sociopath. He just doesn't give a frick.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:21 pm to OMLandshark
Has it been addressed that a so-called "cop" simply walks into their house and stands there for a very long time without so much as a frick given?
When Mr. McAllister finally notices the cop, he becomes an a-hole and says in a pompous manner something like, "Am I in trouble?"
Then the pizza guy tells Mr. McAllister that someone needs to pay him and Mr. McAllister gets distracted, laughs, and then walks away.
What a frickhead!
He didn't give two shits about strangers simply walking in his home.
When Mr. McAllister finally notices the cop, he becomes an a-hole and says in a pompous manner something like, "Am I in trouble?"
Then the pizza guy tells Mr. McAllister that someone needs to pay him and Mr. McAllister gets distracted, laughs, and then walks away.
What a frickhead!
He didn't give two shits about strangers simply walking in his home.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:29 pm to mizzoukills
Yeah, that scene always bothered me. I think Mr. McAllister had ADD. He couldn't pay attention to anything longer than a minute. Even in Home Alone 1 when he sees his missing child finally after worrying for days, he just gives him a head rub and walks out the room. Then in Home Alone 2, same thing happens and he lets the kid sneak out of a luxury hotel to go hang with a homeless woman. His terrible parenting may not be his fault due to his sickness.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:32 pm to mizzoukills
Not to mention the fact that the cops at the Village Police Department totally blow off the mom when she calls them from the airport to them. "Oh your 8 year old son was accidentally left home by himself and you're out of the country? PFT BIG DEAL. You want us to go over there and check on him? UGH OKAY I GUESS." If that happens in real life, that story makes national news and every officer involved is kicked off the force.
Also, the parents never called the cops back to see how he was? No follow-up call to say "hey, just making sure you sent someone over there and if so, whether he's okay."
They should've just rewritten that to where the phone lines are down and she can't call the cops over to their house.
Also, the parents never called the cops back to see how he was? No follow-up call to say "hey, just making sure you sent someone over there and if so, whether he's okay."
They should've just rewritten that to where the phone lines are down and she can't call the cops over to their house.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:35 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Yeah, that scene always bothered me. I think Mr. McAllister had ADD. He couldn't pay attention to anything longer than a minute. Even in Home Alone 1 when he sees his missing child finally after worrying for days, he just gives him a head rub and walks out the room.
That was insane. "Hey ya buddy, good to see you're alright! Awesome, well check ya later."
Also, at the end of HA2, they're such a-holes for taking the master bedroom in the Presidential Suite. Your son just got left to fend for himself in an enormous, dangerous city and you're sticking him with the other 20 kids in a crowded guestroom?
Also, why did the Plaza comp that suite to the family? They didn't do anything wrong! They had a 10 year old check in using a credit card and without adult supervision, and despite numerous requests to have said adult sign the requisite paperwork he/she never materialized. Then, they discovered that the credit card was stolen and attempted to confront the kid - it's not their fault he ran from them. The mom screams "why did you let him leave!?!?" They should've shouted back "are you freaking kidding me -- we had 5 people running after him all over the hotel!"
I've never understood why the hotel staff just takes it from the McAllisters like they did, seeing as how they not only did nothing wrong, but also because the McAllisters are one phone call to CPS away to being ruined personally and professionally and probably going to jail.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:40 pm to Feral
IMDB Trivia and goofs are also good.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:45 pm to Feral
The problems that plague this story are no different than any other John Hughes movie.
Kevin is John Hughes...John Hughes is Kevin. No fricks given.
If we're going to overanalyze Home Alone, I can't imagine the field day we'd have with other Hughes movies like:
1) Vacation, European Vacation, Christmas Vacation
2) 16 Candles
3) Breakfast Club (this one is full of nonsense)
4) Weird Science
5) Pretty in Pink
6) Ferris Bueller (another one full of nonsense)
7) The Great Outdoors
8) Uncle Buck
etc.
Kevin is John Hughes...John Hughes is Kevin. No fricks given.
If we're going to overanalyze Home Alone, I can't imagine the field day we'd have with other Hughes movies like:
1) Vacation, European Vacation, Christmas Vacation
2) 16 Candles
3) Breakfast Club (this one is full of nonsense)
4) Weird Science
5) Pretty in Pink
6) Ferris Bueller (another one full of nonsense)
7) The Great Outdoors
8) Uncle Buck
etc.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:50 pm to Feral
Also, at the very end the father looks at the bill for the first time and then angrily screams, "Kevin!"
Kevin's about to get in some major trouble for surviving on his own! Are you kidding me, Mr. McAllister? You're upset with your son who was nearly killed by vengeful criminals? Really?
Also, clearly Mr. McAllister is clearly wealthy. If you watch the first movie, look at how enormous that house is. Not just the front fo the house, but look how far back that house extends. For all practical purposes, they live in a mansion.
The next year they go on a family trip to fricking Paris! How many average Joes do that with a family that size? Not many.
Yet, Mr. McAllister is pissed when he sees a bill that he can easily afford.
Get the frick out!
Kevin's about to get in some major trouble for surviving on his own! Are you kidding me, Mr. McAllister? You're upset with your son who was nearly killed by vengeful criminals? Really?
Also, clearly Mr. McAllister is clearly wealthy. If you watch the first movie, look at how enormous that house is. Not just the front fo the house, but look how far back that house extends. For all practical purposes, they live in a mansion.
The next year they go on a family trip to fricking Paris! How many average Joes do that with a family that size? Not many.
Yet, Mr. McAllister is pissed when he sees a bill that he can easily afford.
Get the frick out!
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:53 pm to mizzoukills
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1) Vacation, European Vacation, Christmas Vacation
please make this happen
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:25 pm to mizzoukills
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When Mr. McAllister finally notices the cop, he becomes an a-hole and says in a pompous manner something like, "Am I in trouble?"
Then the pizza guy tells Mr. McAllister that someone needs to pay him and Mr. McAllister gets distracted, laughs, and then walks away.
What a frickhead!
He didn't give two shits about strangers simply walking in his home.
I like to think that Mr McAllister is the same prick from Big after he got married and settled down.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:27 pm to OMLandshark
I love this thread.
How is it not anchored, though?
How is it not anchored, though?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:41 pm to Dr RC
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I like to think that Mr McAllister is the same prick from Big after he got married and settled down.
I forgot he was in Big. You're right! He is that same prick!
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:08 pm to Feral
The McAllisters were regulars at the Plaza New York....Well Mr. Mcallister was a regular there. On his many business dealing in NYC he would stay at the Plaza for their discretion in is fondness of the fairer sex. Numerous nights spent gallivanting around the hotel with his brother (a New Yorker himself) and a harem of local ladies of the night.
Because of this deep rooted history between the two, the desk clerk is taken aback when Kevin announces that he is with his father on business. Since Mr. McAllister explicitly told the Plaza staff to never let on about his frequency there, the clerk acts as if he does not know him (hence the request for signature).
Meanwhile, the staff knows that they can't turn Kevin away as they would lose one of their most loyal customers. So the play the charade, and in the meantime try to figure out what is really going on while at the same time not raising any red flags with Mr. McAllister or his wife.
This explains the outrage over the room service bill as well. Mr. McAllister, even though he is a loyal and continued customer, had a standing line of credit at the Plaza. Since it was near Christmas he had maxed the line out on his numerous end of the year sales trips to the big apple. The bill that Kevin racked up put him over the limit, and he would now have to deal with a 1 year probationary period without credit extension.
This just will not do, as the Japanese are do in NY next month and McAllister is banking his whole year on this close. The Fujimoto's are well versed in the lust for women and parties and without the credit line McAllister will find it hard pressed to shade his expenses from his wife.
So, you see, there is a lot more under the surface going on in these family dynamics. You really need to understand the full picture of their lives, not just Christmas week of one year.
Because of this deep rooted history between the two, the desk clerk is taken aback when Kevin announces that he is with his father on business. Since Mr. McAllister explicitly told the Plaza staff to never let on about his frequency there, the clerk acts as if he does not know him (hence the request for signature).
Meanwhile, the staff knows that they can't turn Kevin away as they would lose one of their most loyal customers. So the play the charade, and in the meantime try to figure out what is really going on while at the same time not raising any red flags with Mr. McAllister or his wife.
This explains the outrage over the room service bill as well. Mr. McAllister, even though he is a loyal and continued customer, had a standing line of credit at the Plaza. Since it was near Christmas he had maxed the line out on his numerous end of the year sales trips to the big apple. The bill that Kevin racked up put him over the limit, and he would now have to deal with a 1 year probationary period without credit extension.
This just will not do, as the Japanese are do in NY next month and McAllister is banking his whole year on this close. The Fujimoto's are well versed in the lust for women and parties and without the credit line McAllister will find it hard pressed to shade his expenses from his wife.
So, you see, there is a lot more under the surface going on in these family dynamics. You really need to understand the full picture of their lives, not just Christmas week of one year.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:51 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
I'm sitting in my office audibly laughing at this thread. People have asked what's funny. I didn't answer.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:32 pm to GetCocky11
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Has anyone discussed the price of pizza in the first Home Alone? They were 12 dollars a pie.
I think what's more important is the poor delivery guy who's just trying to make some walking-around money while studying at DePaul, yet he's condemned to a life of PTSD and being an anxious wreck always looking over his shoulder because of that one time he was almost gunned down by some cheapskate while delivering a cheese pizza to the 'burbs.
It's really a sad story -- he quit his job, quit going to class, failed out of school and went broke. He drifted back and forth between odd jobs while taking up a drug habit and always thinking what might have been had he not taken that delivery run out to
All because some kid was pranking him because he didn't want to answer the door.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:41 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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This just will not do, as the Japanese are do in NY next month and McAllister is banking his whole year on this close. The Fujimoto's are well versed in the lust for women and parties and without the credit line McAllister will find it hard pressed to shade his expenses from his wife.
I died
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:54 pm to mizzoukills
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2) 16 Candles
Why do grandparents sign up to host a H.S. foreign exchange student?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:13 am to OMLandshark
It's after 8 by the time Kevin makes it back to his house. If you listen to the church bells, they ring 8 times.
The Automatic lights might have something to do with the time as well, but Harry and Marv don't tell the audience the exact time when they go off.
This movie does plenty to cover its bases, except when it comes to the phones. The phones don't work, but the Dad can call the neighbors the next day, Kevin can order a pizza, and Kevin calls from inside his house to squeal on the cops (who also don't have caller Id).
The Automatic lights might have something to do with the time as well, but Harry and Marv don't tell the audience the exact time when they go off.
This movie does plenty to cover its bases, except when it comes to the phones. The phones don't work, but the Dad can call the neighbors the next day, Kevin can order a pizza, and Kevin calls from inside his house to squeal on the cops (who also don't have caller Id).
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:48 am to robertraur
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It's after 8 by the time Kevin makes it back to his house. If you listen to the church bells, they ring 8 times.
Good catch in something I've never noticed. Always assumed he caught a 5:30 service or something like that.
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This movie does plenty to cover its bases, except when it comes to the phones. The phones don't work, but the Dad can call the neighbors the next day, Kevin can order a pizza, and Kevin calls from inside his house to squeal on the cops (who also don't have caller Id).
Oh, I've read into this. Kevin uses the phone to call the police when the wet bandits arrive. The McCalisters did the bare legal minimum to get away with it. They are simply horrible people who called home once, the police once, and then just get home and don't give a shite anymore. They are horrible people.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 8:50 am
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