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Forget the Past -- LSU's Two QBs Have Damn Good Stats and Rankings
Posted on 11/15/11 at 9:43 am
Posted on 11/15/11 at 9:43 am
Anchoring is a cognitive bias that describes the common human tendency to rely too heavily, or "anchor," on one trait or piece of information when making decisions.
Many LSU fans tend to downplay the abilities of LSU's QBs.
Lee bashers tend to anchor on 2008, Bama, or the back foot.
Jefferson bashers tend to anchor on 2010 prior to Bama or holding the ball too long.
Fans desperate for a compromise tend to say that both QBs are mediocre.
Actually, both of LSU's QBs are pretty damn good.
The QB Rating statistic of LSU's QBs is damn good.
A much quoted stat throughout 2010 and the post-season was the ranking of LSU's Passing Efficiency. LSU was ranked 92 in the nation.
The Passing Efficiency ranking is based upon the QB Rating statistic. In 2010, Jefferson had a QB Rating of 114.7 (#92 ranking). Lee had a QB Rating of 119.9 (#83 ranking).
The QB Rating and Passing Efficiency ranking for LSU QBs have soared.
In 2011, Lee has a QB Rating of 151.5. He has a Passing Efficiency ranking of 23. (See Ranking of his Rating.) That's not mediocre. To the contrary, that's hugely impressive.
Jefferson's Passing Efficiency has similarly been hugely impressive starting with the Alabama game in 2010. Slice it anyway you want. Use Jefferson's 2011's stats (QB Rating of 176.4; #5 ranking). Use Jefferson's last 8 SEC games (QB Rating of 164.7; #7 ranking). Use all of Jefferson's games starting with Bama in 2010 (QB Rating of 159.7; #11 ranking). (Rankings were interpolated using NCAA stats.)
Similarly, the Yds/Attempt, TD%, and Int% statistics and rankings are all damn good.
The Completion Percentage might not be great; however, considering the competition and the yards per attempt, it's still pretty damn good.
LSU's QBs have some bad history. LSU's QBs had some bad stats in 2008 through 2010. Crowton is gone.
LSU's QBs are over it. The fans need to get over it too.
Let go of your anchor. You are missing the boat.
ETA: Changed Title from "Anchored Down in Anchorage"
Many LSU fans tend to downplay the abilities of LSU's QBs.
Lee bashers tend to anchor on 2008, Bama, or the back foot.
Jefferson bashers tend to anchor on 2010 prior to Bama or holding the ball too long.
Fans desperate for a compromise tend to say that both QBs are mediocre.
Actually, both of LSU's QBs are pretty damn good.
The QB Rating statistic of LSU's QBs is damn good.
A much quoted stat throughout 2010 and the post-season was the ranking of LSU's Passing Efficiency. LSU was ranked 92 in the nation.
The Passing Efficiency ranking is based upon the QB Rating statistic. In 2010, Jefferson had a QB Rating of 114.7 (#92 ranking). Lee had a QB Rating of 119.9 (#83 ranking).
The QB Rating and Passing Efficiency ranking for LSU QBs have soared.
In 2011, Lee has a QB Rating of 151.5. He has a Passing Efficiency ranking of 23. (See Ranking of his Rating.) That's not mediocre. To the contrary, that's hugely impressive.
Jefferson's Passing Efficiency has similarly been hugely impressive starting with the Alabama game in 2010. Slice it anyway you want. Use Jefferson's 2011's stats (QB Rating of 176.4; #5 ranking). Use Jefferson's last 8 SEC games (QB Rating of 164.7; #7 ranking). Use all of Jefferson's games starting with Bama in 2010 (QB Rating of 159.7; #11 ranking). (Rankings were interpolated using NCAA stats.)
Similarly, the Yds/Attempt, TD%, and Int% statistics and rankings are all damn good.
The Completion Percentage might not be great; however, considering the competition and the yards per attempt, it's still pretty damn good.
LSU's QBs have some bad history. LSU's QBs had some bad stats in 2008 through 2010. Crowton is gone.
LSU's QBs are over it. The fans need to get over it too.
Let go of your anchor. You are missing the boat.
ETA: Changed Title from "Anchored Down in Anchorage"
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 10:10 am
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Posted on 11/15/11 at 9:47 am to just me
It will be ironic if this thread is anchored
Posted on 11/15/11 at 9:48 am to just me
Nice Work 
Posted on 11/15/11 at 9:49 am to just me
Well done. Billable hours? 
Posted on 11/15/11 at 9:52 am to just me
Thanks for the numbers. I understand we "rant" as monday morning qb's, but both QB's have stepped up when they needed to. I cannot see why not embrace this system as it seems to be working well, whilst keeping every future opponent spinning their head.
It was clear that Saban schemed to JL. Didn't help he didn't protect the ball, but JJ stepping up when he needed to to expose their D where we could makes the difference.
I feel that we are much more balanced of offense this year. That is all I was worried about, don't care who makes the plays or how they do it.
It was clear that Saban schemed to JL. Didn't help he didn't protect the ball, but JJ stepping up when he needed to to expose their D where we could makes the difference.
I feel that we are much more balanced of offense this year. That is all I was worried about, don't care who makes the plays or how they do it.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 9:53 am to just me
Thanks but I don't think it will make a difference with the people that are generating the QB threads. They are not interested in facts. They are interested in the story that came be created.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 9:56 am to just me
Leroy says hello
OK, now this makes no sense.
OK, now this makes no sense.
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:02 am to just me
Its odd that this thread hasnt taken off like other qb threads....
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:04 am to Adam Banks
Well, people have a hard time refuting facts.
The other threads are full of people's ridiculous emotions amount "fairness and equality". That is easier to comment on then to talk about facts that go against your beliefs.
The other threads are full of people's ridiculous emotions amount "fairness and equality". That is easier to comment on then to talk about facts that go against your beliefs.
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:06 am to Adam Banks
Maybe if I edit the title.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:07 am to just me
quote:
Maybe if I edit the title.
Lol I dont think many ranters are up to date on their cognitive biases
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:08 am to Adam Banks
quote:
Its odd that this thread hasnt taken off like other qb threads....
Unfortunately for most people with extra free time: Hyperbole>>>Facts
Talk radio works the same way as the negathreads...
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:08 am to BeeFense5
quote:
Well, people have a hard time refuting facts.
The other threads are full of people's ridiculous emotions amount "fairness and equality". That is easier to comment on then to talk about facts that go against your beliefs.
Yep. Still waiting on the constant-"but the offense just looks lost with JJ in"
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:09 am to just me
Nice work JM.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:12 am to USLttarP
very nice work.
heres to both QBs doing work.
heres to both QBs doing work.
This post was edited on 11/15/11 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:13 am to Adam Banks
The offense just looks lost with JJ in.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:21 am to just me
quote:
Fans desperate for a compromise tend to say that both QBs are mediocre.
Whily I understand people's desire to find a middle ground, this is actually the line that has bothered me the most. Mainly because it has come from cooler heads. "Oh, it doesn't matter, because they both stink (or are mediocre)".
We've lost sight of how well Lee and Jefferson have played. I don't think either are playing at Heisman levels but if we set the bar of good at "Heisman level", then that's your own problem with definitions. Both QBs have been pretty effective, save the Bama game, and against WKU we saw Miles try to flip the playbook for the two. We'll see if that yields even further growth going forward.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:27 am to just me
quote:This was my bucket before your thread. Thanks for bringing some reality into the situation.
Fans desperate for a compromise tend to say that both QBs are mediocre.
How fortunate are we that when one Qb is having a bad game, we're not stuck with him and can go to another capable senior Qb?
Pretty awesome.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:37 am to Mahootney
Totally agree. Lets not forget that the last two national titles have been based on our defense, our running game, and good game managers. I think that the two quarterback system gets bashed too often. When you are as deep as LSU are, you have to find a way to get all of your playmakers in the game. Both quarterbacks have their ups and downs, let's just be thankful that we have one ready to come in and play when their number is called, and also a coach who know how to maximize both of them.
Posted on 11/15/11 at 10:38 am to just me
I liked the original title better 
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