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What % of BCS voters will realize SEC implications if Ark wins?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:40 pm
Since they will essentially be CHOOSING the SEC west rep with their vote. I just wonder how many will be fully versed on the SEC tiebreaker rules, and how important the exact order of LSU, Bama and Ark will be.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:41 pm to lsuexpert57
They are not choosing anything. An LSU loss would create chaos. They would vote for the best team in their opinion.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:43 pm to graychef
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Since they will essentially be CHOOSING the SEC west rep with their vote
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They are not choosing anything
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They would vote for the best team in their opinion.
sounds like they choose to me
Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:43 pm to graychef
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They would vote for the best team in their opinion
and it would be Bama and someone.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:47 pm to The Truth 34
No. Just because the tie-breaker involves the BCS, a voter is not going to consciously choose anybody. If they feel a team is better than the other two, they vote that way. It's the SEC rules that govern the SEC West representative.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:51 pm to lsuexpert57
It'll be LSU-Bama-Arky....as it should. Rank the following 11-1 teams 1-2-3 based on the following resumes:
Alabama 11-1 (7-1)
vs Kent State W 48-7
@ #23 Penn State W 27-11
vs North Texas W 41-0
vs #14 Arkansas W 38-14
@ #12 Florida W 38-10
vs Vanderbilt W 34-0
@ Ole Miss W 52-7
vs Tennessee W 37-6
vs #1 LSU L 9-6 OT
@ Mississippi State W 24-7
vs Georgia Southern W 47-0
@ #20 Auburn W 38-13
Arkansas 11-1 (7-1)
vs Missouri State W 51-7
vs New Mexico W 52-3
vs Troy W 38-28
@ #3 Alabama L 38-14
vs #14 Texas A&M* W 42-38
vs #15 Auburn W 38-14
@ Ole Miss W 29-24
@ Vanderbilt W 31-28
vs #9 South Carolina W 44-28
vs Tennessee W 49-7
vs Mississippi State W 27-10
@ #1 LSU W 31-27
LSU 11-1 (7-1)
vs #3 Oregon* W 40-27
vs Northwestern State W 49-3
@ #25 Mississippi State W 19-6
@ #16 West Virginia W 47-21
vs Kentucky W 35-7
vs #17 Florida W 41-11
@ Tennessee W 38-7
vs #20 Auburn W 45-10
@ #2 Alabama W 9-6 OT
vs Western Kentucky W 42-9
@ Ole Miss W 36-14
vs #8 Arkansas L 31-27
Based on these resumes, a reasonable person should come to the following conclusions:
1. LSU easily has the best overall resume, winning vs Oregon, @ West Virginia, and @ Alabama. LSU dominated 10 of the 12 teams it faced.
2. LSU should be ranked the highest of the three teams
3. Alabama throttled Arkansas, and played a tougher schedule than the Hogs, winning @ Penn State. Alabama dominated 11 of the 12 teams it faced.
4. Alabama should be ranked 2nd highest of the three teams
5. Arkansas, by default, should be ranked 3rd highest of the three teams. Arkanasas dominated 5 of the 12 teams it faced.
Again, this is easy. If anyone comes up with anything other than LSU-Bama-Arky, they are biased and not looking at the entire picture.
Alabama 11-1 (7-1)
vs Kent State W 48-7
@ #23 Penn State W 27-11
vs North Texas W 41-0
vs #14 Arkansas W 38-14
@ #12 Florida W 38-10
vs Vanderbilt W 34-0
@ Ole Miss W 52-7
vs Tennessee W 37-6
vs #1 LSU L 9-6 OT
@ Mississippi State W 24-7
vs Georgia Southern W 47-0
@ #20 Auburn W 38-13
Arkansas 11-1 (7-1)
vs Missouri State W 51-7
vs New Mexico W 52-3
vs Troy W 38-28
@ #3 Alabama L 38-14
vs #14 Texas A&M* W 42-38
vs #15 Auburn W 38-14
@ Ole Miss W 29-24
@ Vanderbilt W 31-28
vs #9 South Carolina W 44-28
vs Tennessee W 49-7
vs Mississippi State W 27-10
@ #1 LSU W 31-27
LSU 11-1 (7-1)
vs #3 Oregon* W 40-27
vs Northwestern State W 49-3
@ #25 Mississippi State W 19-6
@ #16 West Virginia W 47-21
vs Kentucky W 35-7
vs #17 Florida W 41-11
@ Tennessee W 38-7
vs #20 Auburn W 45-10
@ #2 Alabama W 9-6 OT
vs Western Kentucky W 42-9
@ Ole Miss W 36-14
vs #8 Arkansas L 31-27
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The combined records of the FBS opponents for all 12 SEC schools: (as of 11-6-11)
Tennessee: 47-23 (.671)
LSU: 46-26 (.639)
Ole Miss: 46-26 (.639)
Vanderbilt: 44-28 (.611)
Alabama: 43-29 (.597)
Auburn: 47-32 (.595)
Mississippi State: 41-31 (.569)
Kentucky: 41-32 (.562)
South Carolina: 45-36 (.555)
Florida: 43-37 (.538)
Georgia: 38-33 (.535)
Arkansas: 34-37 (.479)
Speaking of Arkansas, the Hogs have faced the easiest schedule in the SEC, according to the combined records of their opponents. The Hogs’ FBS foes are a combined 34-37 (.479).
Of Arkansas’ eight FBS opponents to this point, four currently have losing records.
Nonetheless, Arkansas is one of only three SEC teams (along with Alabama and LSU) that has beaten three or more nationally-ranked opponents this season. The Hogs own wins over Texas A&M, Auburn and South Carolina. All three teams were ranked in the AP poll at the time of the game.
No. 1 LSU, coming off its 9-6 overtime win at Alabama, owns six victories over nationally-ranked foes, including two over top 5 teams.
Based on these resumes, a reasonable person should come to the following conclusions:
1. LSU easily has the best overall resume, winning vs Oregon, @ West Virginia, and @ Alabama. LSU dominated 10 of the 12 teams it faced.
2. LSU should be ranked the highest of the three teams
3. Alabama throttled Arkansas, and played a tougher schedule than the Hogs, winning @ Penn State. Alabama dominated 11 of the 12 teams it faced.
4. Alabama should be ranked 2nd highest of the three teams
5. Arkansas, by default, should be ranked 3rd highest of the three teams. Arkanasas dominated 5 of the 12 teams it faced.
Again, this is easy. If anyone comes up with anything other than LSU-Bama-Arky, they are biased and not looking at the entire picture.
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 11/13/11 at 4:58 pm to graychef
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No. Just because the tie-breaker involves the BCS, a voter is not going to consciously choose anybody. If they feel a team is better than the other two, they vote that way. It's the SEC rules that govern the SEC West representative.
I don't agree, I think in the last vote of the year, when it is truly on the line the voters realize that they are voting on what two teams they want to see in the BCSNCG. I don't think they put much thought into their votes during the season because they know a vote at that time doesn't really mean anything. I think they tend to take into account a teams complete body of work at the end of the season, much moreso than they do DURING the season. This of course wouldn't be the LAST vote of the season, but only one week removed.
I don't feel strongly that we should go if we lose to Ark as we are at home with the chips on the line and if we lose there should be consequences. BUT! Bama also lost at home with the chips on the table, and Ark was crushed be bama so in truth there is little to separate the 3 teams in my mind.
My biggest thing is I don't think Bama would deserve to go over us, and in all but one tiebreaking scenario they would.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:00 pm to lsuexpert57
LSU simply will not lets this debate occur.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:03 pm to L S Usetheforce
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LSU simply will not lets this debate occur.
That surely is "PLAN A"!!
Posted on 11/13/11 at 5:42 pm to lsuexpert57
Arkansas will jump 1 or the other and it's an undeniable 100% fact. I actually hope LSU stays ahead and Arkansas only jumps Bama. BCS voters only think that the top team goes to the ship. It will finish LSU, Ark, Bama in that order.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:06 pm to ShreveportHog94
If that happens, Arkansas would go wouldn't they?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:31 pm to lsuexpert57
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Since they will essentially be CHOOSING the SEC west rep with their vote. I just wonder how many will be fully versed on the SEC tiebreaker rules, and how important the exact order of LSU, Bama and Ark will be.
I was listening to Sirius 91 tonight and whatever show it was, it was clear they did not know it. They thought that the highest rated team was the one that goes.
Fear not. Kirk Herbstreit will tell everybody how they should vote.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:57 pm to NOTiger08
Correct. Highest 2 ranked teams and head-to-head decides it. LSU will play their best game of the year against Ark. in my opinion. If so this debate is just for b.s. purposes. Every game is a potential championship game. LSU brings it every game. Expect the same against Ark. NEXT!
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