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Where would you rank the MLS amongst other leagues around the World?

Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:10 am
Posted by NOLATiger86
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:10 am
Was asking a friend about this the other day, but we are both fairly "new" to soccer and could not come up with a complete list.

Just wanted to see the Soccer boards opinion...
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:14 am to
Now I think it may be on par with some of the lesser European leagues, but that isn't saying much. Every country in Europe has some dinky league, that doesn't mean it is worth a damn.

The MLS doesn't stack up to Europe's three or four best, that is for sure. It doesn't even stack up to the best leagues in this hemisphere, to be honest.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:14 am to
I believe the general consensus on this board is say about on par with weaker European leagues (Scandanavian), Mexican. Maybe with the Russian league?
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:14 am to
Better than the SPL for sure.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:15 am to
The Russian League throws around a lot more money than the MLS. The only thing the Scandinavian leagues have on us is the proximity to the Bundesliga and others of that sort.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:16 am to
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Maybe with the Russian league?


The top teams in the Russian league seem a lot better than MLS level but I don't really follow that league at all as far as knowing depth.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:17 am to
Behind the EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, Brazilian Serie A, French Ligue 1, Dutch league, Portuguese, Turkish, and Argentinian. Possibly lower than the Russian league and a few league 2s.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 11:18 am
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:17 am to
I have seen where MLS would be ranked around Belgium's quality as well.

As for Russia, aren't they also a two-team league between Spartak Moscow and Zenit?
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
19871 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:24 am to
Ive thought the top half of MLS could compete inthe english championship
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:02 pm to
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As for Russia, aren't they also a two-team league between Spartak Moscow and Zenit?


Nah, the league's had six different champions since its inception, and 4 in the last six years. I was kinda hooked after this game a couple of years ago. LINK
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:19 pm to
According to IFFHS we are much much lower than I would venture to guess LINK
Posted by thebert4130
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
1611 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:37 pm to
It's funny how everyone says we are rated way too low. 57 is a bit harsh but what have we done to say other wise? We are a relatively new league, in a country known for having poor soccer.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28423 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:43 pm to
I'd say we are somewhere between the English Championship and League 1. Probably closer to Championship but definitely not that level yet.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

We are a relatively new league, in a country known for having poor soccer.

We do not have poor soccer. We are a top 25 soccer nation, and we should only improve. The wealth, size, and experience of the US will lend itself to eventually being a power.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

57 is a bit harsh but what have we done to say other wise? We are a relatively new league, in a country known for having poor soccer.


Our soccer isn't poor. As stated above we are at least a top 25 national team And did you read the list? Peruvian league 38 spots ahead of MLS? Other questionables: Ecuador, Swiss, Israel, Egypt, Serbia, Tunisia, Japan, Slovakia, Bolivia, Nigeria, Costa Rica, South Africa, Cameroon, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Ireland, Estonia, Iran, Guatemala, Finland, Honduras, and China all having better leagues than MLS is just completely unrealistic.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 12:59 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:03 pm to
Above the Scandinavian. Below the SPL and Russia.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28423 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:09 pm to
LOL if China has a better domestic league than the US does then we might as well just give up.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

According to IFFHS we are much much lower than I would venture to guess


That's because IFFHS ranks completely off of inter-league competition, and the MLS just now started giving a shite about the Concacaf champions league. We were in the 100's last year.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

That's because IFFHS ranks completely off of inter-league competition, and the MLS just now started giving a shite about the Concacaf champions league. We were in the 100's last year.


It's pretty much impossible to really rank the leagues by any system--even say the top European leagues --other than impression and opinion because of exactly the point you make: even head to head doesn't really tell the story because of the extreme variation in how seriously clubs take inter league matches.

Just like using Europa League so heavily in UEFA league rankings really skews the real reflection of league strength when a Man City or Juventus ect is just playing filler to rest stars for league play against clubs that are treating the match like their own CL final.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

It's pretty much impossible to really rank the leagues by any system--even say the top European leagues --other than impression and opinion because of exactly the point you make: even head to head doesn't really tell the story because of the extreme variation in how seriously clubs take inter league matches.


Correct.

These rankings have the Bundesliga ranked behind the Brazilian league.
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