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Looking to clairfy some "myths" about LSU Football

Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:22 am
Posted by secman12
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:22 am
My CF craving is killing me. So I was thinking about some of the urban legends I have heard over the years, but am not sure how true they are. I welcome those who can clarify fact versus fiction on this stuff. This may all be bull, but what is real?
Thanks
1) Did Bert Jones really say the best part of his career at LSU was leaving?
2) Did any of the 3 Manning’s ever really consider coming to LSU? Did LSU recruit them hard? (for the record, I view Manning’s as THE most overrated sports family ever, they are good, but 11 seasons of CF with one sec title, no nc, no Heisman’s and a sub .550 sec record as a family does not deserve 1/100th of the credit they get imo)

3) Did Mike Archer find out he was fired from the press and not Joe Dean?

4) After the 44-3 loss to Miami in 88, did Ruffin Rodrique really say that basically Miami knew they were playing against a great team?
Posted by Sandperson
B-Ham, AL
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:31 am to
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4) After the 44-3 loss to Miami in 88, did Ruffin Rodrique really say that basically Miami knew they were playing against a great team?


I was at that game and the quote must be wrong...he must have said " Miami knew they were playing in some really crappy weather and beat the snot out of us."
Posted by Sandperson
B-Ham, AL
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:34 am to
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I view Manning’s as THE most overrated sports family ever, they are good, but 11 seasons of CF with one sec title, no nc, no Heisman’s and a sub .550 sec record as a family does not deserve 1/100th of the credit they get imo)


It might be fair to say college sports family, but they do have those Super Bowls, which kind of trumps virtually anything else, right?
Posted by secman12
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
1212 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:40 am to
Don't want this to turn into a Manning thread, but I admit that they have 2 NFL SB rings, but I would even debate (for another thread) they are overrated in NFL too. (as an INDY fan are you happy with one sb title in PM's career???)

However, in college, IMO many believe they were great...the facts do NOT support this, Archie and Ely never sniifed even a conf title and Peyton by most accounts underchanved with only one SEC tile and no NC's. Tee Martin..enuff said.
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
4979 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:42 am to
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3) Did Mike Archer find out he was fired from the press and not Joe Dean?


I've heard this too - I was at LSU for the dark days that followed..... I'd love to know if this is true as well!
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:47 am to
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Archie and Ely never sniifed even a conf title
Eli got pretty close
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101466 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:49 am to
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1) Did Bert Jones really say the best part of his career at LSU was leaving?


I've never even heard of this as a "myth."

2. is no and no. Being bitter about such a thing would be silly, though.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:49 am to
So you are only good in College if your team did very well?

As for the NFL you are shitting me right?

I guess Dan Marino was sucked then since he didnt even have 1.
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
Member since Sep 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:49 am to
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Eli got pretty close


Til he tripped on himself
Posted by BordyLSU
Austin Texas Baby
Member since Dec 2006
1314 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:55 am to
5)Was Steve Spurrier really waiting outside for an interview while Curley Hallman was being hired?

I have heard this more than once and always thought it was BS.

With a little research, it seems that Spurrier would have been wrapping up his first season with UF when Hallman was hired (Nov. 1990). The timing seems off for an interview.
Posted by Bzoner
70808
Member since May 2011
859 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:55 am to
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Til he tripped on himself


it was the centers fat calf damnit
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Osaka
Member since Nov 2003
3277 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:55 am to
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Til he tripped on himself

aka The Horizontal Heisman
Posted by golf teaching pro
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
604 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:58 am to
Fuc the manning family. From No never showed Lsu any love. Then to top it off Eli refuses to sign with San Diego, at the same time Pat Tillman turns down millions to go die for his country! You wana go buy yor kid a manning jersey, your what's wrong with this country. Go get your kid a Pat Tillman jersey and learn a lesson about who heroes really are. I respect Peyon as a player but the rest of the family can go to he'll!
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:01 pm to
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From No never showed Lsu any love
well, Archie is from Mississippi. when peyton was entering college, LSU sucked arse, and Eli went where his dad was a legend. I have no beef with them not coming to LSU
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25870 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:01 pm to
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Til he succumbed to voodoo magic


Fixed.
I had forgotten about that play until now, rewatched it on youtube. Still just as funny.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13969 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:02 pm to
I thought that Peyton choose Tenn b/c LSU was hard after Booty and he went to the MLB instead of football right out of HS.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101466 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:03 pm to
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From No never showed Lsu any love
well, Archie is from Mississippi. when peyton was entering college, LSU sucked arse, and Eli went where his dad was a legend. I have no beef with them not coming to LSU



This.

Being bitter over why none of the Manning kids considered LSU strikes me as somewhat pathetic, at best.

And I'm not someone you could describe as a "Manning Fan" by any stretch.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30194 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:03 pm to
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Fuc the manning family. From No never showed Lsu any love. Then to top it off Eli refuses to sign with San Diego, at the same time Pat Tillman turns down millions to go die for his country! You wana go buy yor kid a manning jersey, your what's wrong with this country. Go get your kid a Pat Tillman jersey and learn a lesson about who heroes really are. I respect Peyon as a player but the rest of the family can go to he'll!


You mad?
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89880 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Fuc the manning family. From No never showed Lsu any love. Then to top it off Eli refuses to sign with San Diego, at the same time Pat Tillman turns down millions to go die for his country! You wana go buy yor kid a manning jersey, your what's wrong with this country. Go get your kid a Pat Tillman jersey and learn a lesson about who heroes really are. I respect Peyon as a player but the rest of the family can go to he'll!




Sans the Tillman part - I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

The Manning family didn't owe LSU anything. As a matter of fact, I would've expected Archie's boys to not go to LSU considering he went to Ole Miss. Good Lord - just because they grew up in NOLA, it doesn't mean that they were beholden to LSU.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

With a little research, it seems that Spurrier would have been wrapping up his first season with UF when Hallman was hired (Nov. 1990). The timing seems off for an interview.


Correct. I believe Spurrier was in the running at the time Archer was hired. If my memory is correct, which it probably isn't, Spurrier was on his way to Baton Rouge for the interview but Joe Dean gave the job to Archer before giving Spurrier a shot.

Great move by Joe Dean.
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