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re: Do I need a permit or anything to buy an AR-15

Posted on 6/20/11 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 9:28 am to
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 9:30 am to
It would sure save you the trouble of being sued by the family.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8782 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 9:34 am to
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planning on hiding the evidence?




Frivolous lawsuits these days...
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 9:39 am to
Going from this:
quote:

this dude gettin an ar after "shooting a few handguns"

to this:
quote:

and killing his neighbor or himself on accident
is a pretty huge stretch.

Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18379 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 10:48 am to
1. Easier to use.
2. Easier to maintain.
3. Ammo/gun is cheaper
4. Easier to handle.
5. Can be shot in more places due to low caliber.
6. Quieter
7. .22 is better for learning long gun basics than anything.

1. load pull trigger reapeat. Jams happen in both.
2. 10\22 does require some good cleaning at times
3. 10\22 is cheaper but $$ is not an issue here on how a firearm works
4. easier? both light both low recoil
5. shot in more places? Most people go to a range. I doubt shooting cb caps in a neighborhood with a 22 to learn is a safe idea
6. what does quieter have to do with it
7. 22 is good if it is a single shot as a beginner tool as a child. But as an adult after about an hour I think you would want to move on.
This post was edited on 6/20/11 at 10:51 am
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:01 am to
1. Less components, that's why it's easier
2. see number 1
3. It's an issue if someone's never owned a long gun before and isn't sure if they should blow a grand on one.
4. See number 1 again. Also, would you trust a child with an AR? How about a 10/22?
5. You must not go to a lot of different ranges. Some only allow rifles in .22 or just no rifles at all. Plus, you can shoot it in your back yard if you're in a rural area and not disturb neighbors. You can't do that with an AR.
6. Don't have to wear ear plugs, also contributes to number 5.
7. Not true, I still shoot my 10/22. It's just fun. Plus, 1-6 all contribute to it making a better gun to learn on.
Posted by Groundhog
Member since Feb 2010
180 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:17 am to
Hey Ole Geauxt, I am interested in your Judge. What are you asking for it?
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Hey Ole Geauxt, I am interested in your Judge. What are you asking for it?


you going elephant hunting?
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18379 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 12:31 pm to
Price, backyard shooting, loudness, and being a child has nothing to do with this case. I doubr the guy asking is 7 years

not knocking the 10/22 I love it great firearma nd fun to shoot.
This post was edited on 6/20/11 at 12:33 pm
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 12:50 pm to
My $.02: I find it a little concerning that a guy who has only fired a handgun a few years back (or however he put it) wants to get into guns by buying an AR. I guarantee he is choosing this weapon because he thinks it looks cool or because he thinks it will make him look cool. I don't think that is a healthy or sustainable reason to get into firearms. It is NOT a good choice for home defense, especially for a beginner. Also, the thought of someone learning to shoot a rifle with a loaded 30 round mag should be concerning to anyone at the range that day. You know he won't just put a couple of rounds in the mag the first time.

If he is not going to be hunting, a handgun or shotgun is probably a better choice to start.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

My $.02: I find it a little concerning that a guy who has only fired a handgun a few years back (or however he put it) wants to get into guns by buying an AR. I guarantee he is choosing this weapon because he thinks it looks cool or because he thinks it will make him look cool. I don't think that is a healthy or sustainable reason to get into firearms. It is NOT a good choice for home defense, especially for a beginner. Also, the thought of someone learning to shoot a rifle with a loaded 30 round mag should be concerning to anyone at the range that day. You know he won't just put a couple of rounds in the mag the first time.


exactly the point I was trying to make too.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:14 pm to
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Also, the thought of someone learning to shoot a rifle with a loaded 30 round mag should be concerning to anyone at the range that day.


Why? Because it fires more than one round each trigger pull. Id say this is better than hillbilly joe with BAR in 300 winmag. I bet that gun id more dangerous with a first time shooter than an ar.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:27 pm to
Honestly, I'm uncomfortable with somebody unfamiliar with a gun handling anything that can go bang without proper supervision.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

hillbilly joe with BAR in 300 winmag


Hillbilly joe, if he is using a hunting rifle, only has to count to five and has probably shot his gun more than once.

OP has next to no firearm experience and you think it is ok to give him 30 round mags?
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Honestly, I'm uncomfortable with somebody unfamiliar with a gun handling anything that can go bang without proper supervision.


THIS!

X2 if he is buying a gun for the "cool factor"
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18379 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:32 pm to
by a Benjemin air rifle first. Single shot, shoot inside if you want, learn that way first if safety is a concern. This is even safer than the 10\22 argument.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:34 pm to
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OP has next to no firearm experience and you think it is ok to give him 30 round mags


This is a bad idea, and it's irrefutable IMO. You have 6 times the chance of messing up with a 30 round mag vs a 5 round mag.



My dad taught me by only allowing me one shot, no matter what I was shooting. I'm a firm believer that everybody should be taught this way. The farther you stray away from one, the more dangerous it gets.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30775 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Hillbilly joe, if he is using a hunting rifle, only has to count to five and has probably shot his gun more than once.

OP has next to no firearm experience and you think it is ok to give him 30 round mags?


More or less I was meaning, I would rather the OP shoot an ar than a 300 win mag in a semi auto for the first time.

And everyone here realizes that they make other magazines for ARs right? They all arent 30rds, there are single shot, 5, 10, 15, 30, 60, 90, beta mags, there are even neutered 30rd mags for the californians that want to look cool.

Maybe he intends to use a magazine with less capacity, did anyone ask?
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29299 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

And everyone here realizes that they make other magazines for ARs right? They all arent 30rds, there are single shot, 5, 10, 15, 30, 60, 90, beta mags, there are even neutered 30rd mags for the californians that want to look cool.

Maybe he intends to use a magazine with less capacity, did anyone ask?


Did you ask him if he was buying a lower capacity mag? No, because we all KNOW he is going to buy a high capacity mag. If not, why buy such an expensive rifle to only shoot 5 times?!?

Buying an AR for a first gun with no experience is like a guy that gets a pitbull with no experience raising a dog simply because he thinks it will make him cool.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30775 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Did you ask him if he was buying a lower capacity mag?


I didnt ask anything, I dont care what he gets.

I use smaller mags because a 30 rd mag is aggravating while laying in the prone.

quote:

Buying an AR for a first gun with no experience is like a guy that gets a pitbull with no experience raising a dog simply because he thinks it will make him cool.


Meh, isnt that why we all have them?


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