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Help me out with the MJ/LBJ Comparisons
Posted on 6/13/11 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 6/13/11 at 5:56 pm
I'll admit, I don't follow the NBA that much, but:
Wasn't MJ considered somewhat of a 'choker' as well early in his career because he couldn't get past teams like the Celtics and Pistons?
Didn't it take him 7 years to win his first championship?
Didn't he go to college?
So that would have put him somewhere around 29 yrs old when he won his first championship.
Lebron is 26, right? But he's being compared to MJ, and referred to as a 'choker' in comparison to MJ's career?
Someone sort me out here.
Wasn't MJ considered somewhat of a 'choker' as well early in his career because he couldn't get past teams like the Celtics and Pistons?
Didn't it take him 7 years to win his first championship?
Didn't he go to college?
So that would have put him somewhere around 29 yrs old when he won his first championship.
Lebron is 26, right? But he's being compared to MJ, and referred to as a 'choker' in comparison to MJ's career?
Someone sort me out here.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 5:57 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
James at 26 > Jordan at 26
The Complete Jordan > What one day will be the Complete James
The Complete Jordan > What one day will be the Complete James
Posted on 6/13/11 at 5:59 pm to pwejr88
Mj was 28 when he won his first one. That being said your logical argument isn't warranted here because Lebron is terrible now.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:00 pm to xiv
quote:
The Complete Jordan > What one day will be the Complete James
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:00 pm to hiltacular
quote:
because Lebron is terrible now.
Logically...
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:01 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
Jordan wasn't the #1 overall pick in the draft. MJ wasn't deemed "the chosen one" or "the king" coming out of high school. They are two different players, with different games, who play different positions and chose much different paths.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:02 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
quote:
I'll admit, I don't follow the NBA that much
Best to leave it at that.
Jordan..one planet
James...another
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:03 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
LBJ would look alot different in an NBA where zone defenses are illegal.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:13 pm to xiv
quote:
James at 26 > Jordan at 26
I'm not sure I even agree with this. Jordan had a better PER thru age 26 than James had. Also his playoff PER was significantly better than James at that age. At age 26, Jordan had one of the best PER seasons ever. Jordan vs James at age 26.
I do, however, agree with your second statement.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:19 pm to xiv
quote:
James at 26 > Jordan at 26
No way in hell. Jordan was playing against far and away better teams. Also Kordan would smoke him.
LBJ was as productive in the Finals as Len Bias was for the Celtics.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 6:19 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
This should be perfect: LINK
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:25 pm to ChiSaint
quote:26James:
I'm not sure I even agree with this. Jordan had a better PER thru age 26 than James had. Also his playoff PER was significantly better than James at that age. At age 26, Jordan had one of the best PER seasons ever.
7 All-Stars
1 Scoring title
2 MVP's
2 Finals appearances
5 1st team
2 2nd team
3 Defensive 1st team
0 Defensive POY
26Jordan:
5 All-Stars
2 Scoring titles
1 MVP
0 Finals appearances
3 1st team
1 2nd team
2 Defensive 1st team
1 Defensive POY
Jordan passes James for good at 31.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:38 pm to xiv
You also fail to mention James has been in the league 8 years and Jordan had been in the league like 5 years so some of those numbers are a bit skewed.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:39 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Vicks Kennel Club
That may have been the stupidest thing that I've ever read.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:39 pm to F machine
quote:This also proves that 26James is better than 26Jordan. 26James has played 8 seasons; 26Jordan has only played 5.
You also fail to mention James has been in the league 8 years and Jordan had been in the league like 5 years so some of those numbers are a bit skewed.
If James, God forbid, were to die this summer, he is a definite Hall-of-Famer (before you argue against this, find a seven-time all-star who isn't in the HoF). If Jordan had died in a plane crash after the 1989 season (when he was 26), I'm far less certain.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:43 pm to xiv
So because he has been in the league longer at that age, that means he is better? No. It just means he had more opportunities for all star appearances, mvps, etc
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:46 pm to F machine
These comparisons are ridiculous at this point. People wanted Kobe to be MJ and it didn't happen.
Also you can't just point to stats, what made MJ great was the way he elevated his game in the big situations, so far Lebron has shrunk from it.
MJ is known for his clutch shots, his big perfomances and his competitive fire, LBJ is known for the decision and mediocre finals perfomances.
Can we drop this topic for 7 or so years?
Also you can't just point to stats, what made MJ great was the way he elevated his game in the big situations, so far Lebron has shrunk from it.
MJ is known for his clutch shots, his big perfomances and his competitive fire, LBJ is known for the decision and mediocre finals perfomances.
Can we drop this topic for 7 or so years?
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:57 pm to F machine
quote:Why has he been in the league longer? Because he's been better than Jordan for the most part.
So because he has been in the league longer at that age, that means he is better? No. It just means he had more opportunities for all star appearances, mvps, etc
You don't get it.
Age - Lebron - Jordan
19 - RoY - UNC freshman
20 - 2nd team - all-ACC first team
21 - scoring champ - Naismith PoY
22 - 1st team, Finals - all-star
23 - 1st team - hurt all year
24 - MVP - 1st team, scoring champ
25 - MVP - MVP, scoring champ
26 - 1st team, Finals - 1st team, scoring champ
Lebron has the edge for the first five years. Photo finish for the next two.
This post was edited on 6/13/11 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:57 pm to heatom2
quote:You mean after Jordan has six titles? That's no fun.
Can we drop this topic for 7 or so years?
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