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re: Homebrewing: Supplies/ Starter Kits

Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by fillmoregandt
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:53 pm to
^^^ Well when you put it that way...
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 4:06 pm to
Question:

When do you strain out hop and grain ingrediants?

In my book, my steps are as follows:

4. Add your hot malt extracts and water mixture to fermenter.
5. When temperature is ideally below 75 degrees, measure the specific gravity with your beer hydrometer and then add the yeast.
6. Attach fermentation hose (blow out hose) and after initial fermentation has subsided attach fermentation lock.
7. Ferment for 8 - 14 days.

In step 6 they say, "First sanitize the 3' length of 1 1/4 inch outside diameter clear plastic hose. After having strained out all hop and grain ingredients from your brew, fit the hose into the carboy's opening".

1)Are they telling me to strain my brew before adding it into the glass carboy?
2)Or do they want me to add my extracts and water mixture to the carboy (step 4). Take a measurement (step 5). Then go back and strain out the excess grains, then attach the hose?
3) or does the fermentation hose (blowout hose) strain your grain and hops for you? and should i just proceed with attaching the blowout hose and letting it drain into a jar?

This is the only step of the process i'm unclear on.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 8:18 pm to
Whoa. That's an odd way of going about it. I guess I need to go back and review that book again. My suggestion is to stillget a kit from an online retailer and follow thier instructions.
Essentially here is how you brew extract:
1. Heat about 2.5 gallons of water to roughly 150 degrees.
2. Add steeping grains and hold temp for 30 mins. Do not get temp higher than 170.
3. Remove grains. Typically this is easy due to the grains being in a muslin bag which was provided in kit.
4. Add malt extract and bring to boil.
5. When boil occurs start. 60 minute timer.
6. Add hops accoding to recipe.
7. When hour is complete turn off flame and start to cool. Ice bath, chiller, ice ( if you play that game).
8. When getting close to 70-80 degrees tranfer into carboy and top off with cold water to 5 gallon mark.
9. If you want to take a reading at this stage.
10. Add yeast.
11. Attach blow off tube.

That's about it. I rarely filte out hops but I have been using a hop bag recently which makes it easier to remove them. They sink to the bottom of the fermenter anyways.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 8:28 pm to
Maybe they are talking about cold break.

Many extract kits have no grain only hops and liquid or dry extract.

Put your grain in a muslin bag and get a small hop bag to boil in.

Many people will pour the hot wort through a strainer into the bottling bucket (sanitized) then the dump the crud then pour back and forth bucket to pot to get oxygen in the wort for the yeast.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 8:35 pm to
What are the two main books that yall have been recommending to newbies? I am interested in doing this, but I don't have the space where I currently live, so I figure I can learn as much as possible now for when I actually can start trying it out.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 8:39 pm to
How to Brew by John Palmer is the one I normally recommend. Its even available for free online..

LINK

Complete Joy of Homebrewing is pretty good too as is Designing Beer.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:06 pm to
thanks.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

ProjectP2294


Not sure how much room you have but I pretty much use a coat closet for mine.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70298 posts
Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

Not sure how much room you have but I pretty much use a coat closet for mine.


I'm in a small one BR apt. But my lease is up in a few months, so I'll have more room soon.
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

How to Brew by John Palmer is the one I normally recommend
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52789 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:42 pm to
Well, i was going to wait until i move before brewing my first batch, but my lease isn't up until end of July, so....Looks like i may be brewing as early as next week. Provided i find all the supplies.
Posted by thebhamdawgfan
The Magic City
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:54 pm to
Keep us updated.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I'm in a small one BR apt.


You'd be surprised. I brew all-grain in a small apartment. It's all about priorities.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21479 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:58 pm to
You don't need more than about a spare 3'x3' space to put your fermenter. Other than that, if you have a stove, you have enough room.

Another vote for "How to Brew" as a first choice.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52789 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 1:02 pm to
quote:


Another vote for "How to Brew" as a first choice.


I have complete joy of homebrewing. I guess i need to look into this one as well.
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

You'd be surprised. I brew all-grain in a small apartment. It's all about priorities.


I did too for a long time.

FWIW, I have always used buckets for primary and glass for secondary. I find buckets to be safer, but I would like to try better bottles.

OP: How do you plan to control fermentation temps?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52789 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 1:10 pm to
So i'm reading a preview of how to brew, and they are going through the process of brewing.

It is pretty different compared to complete joy of brewing.

Has anyone used both techniques? Which works best?
This post was edited on 4/6/11 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 1:13 pm to
They are basically the same in the end.. Just each have different nuances. I read complete joy of brewing a long time ago and how to brew is my toilet reading. So Im more familiar with H2B though

Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

So Im more familiar with H2B though


I am getting the new AHA book that just came out recently for my upcoming birthday. Brewing Better Beer by Gordon Strong. So I am hoping the book is great, something that will stay in my bathroom until finished.

That is what I did for Radical Brewing. Which was a good book but not something that I would recommend for someone just starting. That was more of a cool history of beer book.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 2:01 pm to
Hijacking Thread...Sorry OP

quote:

swampdawg


How did Zapp's go for you guys? I never left our tent, so I wasn't able to try anything else

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