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Rule changes you'd like to see
Posted on 3/17/11 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 3/17/11 at 6:41 pm
Just listening to WWL and the topic was rule changes you'd like to see in the NFL
My suggestions...
1) Get rid of the rule allowing QB to throw the ball out of bounds to avoid a sack. Go back to old-school grounding rules
2) No sliding rule for QB. Sorry it's not right for a QB to start his slide before the 1st down marker (at this point the defender can't touch him), land on the ground after the 1st down marker and it's a first down
3) Max 15 yard penalty for pass inteference. Tired of seeing games decided by ticky-tack pass interference calls that end up being 30+ yard penalties for the defense
4) Simplify the defintion of a reception. You either caught the the ball or you didn't. WTF is a "football move" anyway?
My suggestions...
1) Get rid of the rule allowing QB to throw the ball out of bounds to avoid a sack. Go back to old-school grounding rules
2) No sliding rule for QB. Sorry it's not right for a QB to start his slide before the 1st down marker (at this point the defender can't touch him), land on the ground after the 1st down marker and it's a first down
3) Max 15 yard penalty for pass inteference. Tired of seeing games decided by ticky-tack pass interference calls that end up being 30+ yard penalties for the defense
4) Simplify the defintion of a reception. You either caught the the ball or you didn't. WTF is a "football move" anyway?
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Posted on 3/17/11 at 6:50 pm to Jason9782003
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1) Get rid of the rule allowing QB to throw the ball out of bounds to avoid a sack. Go back to old-school grounding rules
Sounds ok.
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2) No sliding rule for QB. Sorry it's not right for a QB to start his slide before the 1st down marker (at this point the defender can't touch him), land on the ground after the 1st down marker and it's a first down
I think the rule is the ball is down where he begins his slide. They just need to better enforce this.
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3) Max 15 yard penalty for pass inteference. Tired of seeing games decided by ticky-tack pass interference calls that end up being 30+ yard penalties for the defense
And anytime a receiver blows by a DB at 16+ yards, the DB will just grab him. What they need to change is the hands-in-the-face rule. If there's no contact, there's no interference even if the DB's back is turned.
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4) Simplify the defintion of a reception. You either caught the the ball or you didn't. WTF is a "football move" anyway?
Sounds good.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 6:53 pm to Jason9782003
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3) Max 15 yard penalty for pass inteference. Tired of seeing games decided by ticky-tack pass interference calls that end up being 30+ yard penalties for the defense 4) Simplify the defintion of a reception. You either caught the the ball or you didn't. WTF is a "football move" anyway?
These are two huge ones I'd want to see. I hate that "possession for 10 mins then walk to sideline with it" bullshite.
And that pass interference penalty has always been nuts. You could get a 40 free yards just because someone interfered with the receiver. That should def. be 15 as well.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 6:59 pm to kclsufan
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What they need to change is the hands-in-the-face rule. If there's no contact, there's no interference even if the DB's back is turned.
The face guarding rule? I thought they did get rid of that last year.
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I think the rule is the ball is down where he begins his slide. They just need to better enforce this.
I thought about that too but I think it'll be too tough to judge sometimes when a QB actually begins his slide and where the ball is
5) Use instant replay like the college game. No need for red flags
This post was edited on 3/17/11 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 3/17/11 at 6:59 pm to kclsufan
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And anytime a receiver blows by a DB at 16+ yards, the DB will just grab him. What they need to change is the hands-in-the-face rule. If there's no contact, there's no interference even if the DB's back is turned.
I'm ok with this for sure. I'd actually like to see a 25 yard cap on PI calls though.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 7:00 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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These are two huge ones I'd want to see. I hate that "possession for 10 mins then walk to sideline with it" bullshite.
And that pass interference penalty has always been nuts. You could get a 40 free yards just because someone interfered with the receiver. That should def. be 15 as well.
I have to disagree with changing the pass interference to 15 yards max.. it's like the other guy said. If a receiver gets 15+ yards and it looks like it's a definite catch, just interfere and save some yards.
25 yards is up for debate imo though. That's a big big penalty to take.
This post was edited on 3/17/11 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 3/17/11 at 7:08 pm to Jason9782003
The late hit out of bounds. Some are warranted but many seem to be called when the runner is still in but going toward the line.
Also, you must be at least "this" hot to join the saintsations. Aside from a few hot ones the squad is comprised of dump trucks and sea donkeys.
Also, you must be at least "this" hot to join the saintsations. Aside from a few hot ones the squad is comprised of dump trucks and sea donkeys.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 7:09 pm to Hulkklogan
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If a receiver gets 15+ yards and it looks like it's a definite catch, just interfere and save some yards.
I played DB and it's pretty close to impossible to tell if a ball will be a definite catch while you're looking up at the ball and at the same time running with a receiver. You can tell on TV but not on the field. Unless the WR completely blows by you then maybe you can, but at that point you probably can't interfere with him anyway. Also, if you're in position to intefere with the WR more times than not a DB will go for the ball. It works in college so why not in the NFL?
This post was edited on 3/17/11 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 3/17/11 at 7:09 pm to Hulkklogan
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just interfere and save some yards.
I see your point there, but if you interfere it's still 15 yards and a 1st down. I guarantee if that's a big 3rd down to finish a game out you're not gonna do anything to cause a penalty. I just dont think it's warrants that many yards. I would say 20 at most and spotted wherever it happens if less
Posted on 3/17/11 at 7:15 pm to Jason9782003
Roughing the passer needs to be adjusted a bit. They should either remove or adjust the hands to the head portion. How many times have you seen a rusher barely graze his fingers across the helmet and the flag come out. This is a huge penalty since it is 15 yards and a automatic first down. They should either make a 5 yard and 15/1st version or make the hands to the helmet more of a commons sense judgment call. I don't think the defenders should be able to club the helmet but they shouldn't get called for finger tips either.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 7:25 pm to Jason9782003
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WTF is a "football move" anyway?
they got rid of this last season...
Posted on 3/17/11 at 7:27 pm to Jason9782003
Tuck Rule
Posted on 3/17/11 at 9:20 pm to computerguy
I agree with computerguy. Inadvertent touching of the helmet of the QB should not be penalized
This post was edited on 3/17/11 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 3/17/11 at 9:38 pm to Jason9782003
When winning a challenge, you should get an extra challenge
Penalties should be allowed to be challenged
Penalties should be allowed to be challenged
Posted on 3/17/11 at 9:58 pm to HeauxBeaux
I'd like to see the last 2 minutes of each half go to what used to be the college rules--first down stops the clock, etc. That was the best 2 minutes in sports and when epic things would happen.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 10:31 pm to Jason9782003
I have a question that I have always wanted to ask, I just always thought it is what it is. So here it goes. Why is it not "intentional grounding" when a quarterback spikes the ball to stop the clock??? I have always thought that was the ultimate intentional ground.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 11:35 pm to Kevin TheRant
It is allowed because for an intentional grounding penalty to be called, the QB has to be throwing to avoid a sack.
This post was edited on 3/17/11 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 3/18/11 at 12:11 am to HeauxBeaux
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When winning a challenge, you should get an extra challenge
Yeah, I think if you use both challenges and get them both right, you should keep getting more until you lose.
Posted on 3/18/11 at 1:27 am to kclsufan
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And anytime a receiver blows by a DB at 16+ yards, the DB will just grab him
That's definitely a downside of the 15 yard PI, but I think that is less of a downside than all of the bad PI calls that go for 40+ yards of penalties.
It's too tough of a call for a ref to make that far down the field, and it is often a missed call and always pretty huge as as result.
I'd also offer this, how often do you see college DBs grab a WR that just blew by them? It doesn't happen THAT much.
Posted on 3/18/11 at 2:13 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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I think if you use both challenges and get them both right, you should keep getting more until you lose.
you get a third if this happens. if you have to challenge more than that, the refs will be fired after the game.
do people know the rules now a days?
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