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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:46 pm
Posted by MetryTyger
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:46 pm
Were any of you at that Halloween 1959 game who may remember in what direction Cannon returned his famous 89 yard punt return?
On TV it looks like he caught it on the South end and returned it to the North end. Correct?
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Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:46 pm to
Don't know but every time I see that run...I laugh. Football has come a long way. Seems like he ran that play in about 40 seconds flat. Did anyone have speed back then...
Posted by pistolpete23
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

On TV it looks like he caught it on the South end and returned it to the North end. Correct?


This
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:48 pm to
If the pressbox was always on the west side, which I believe it was then yes the film shows him running right to left (south end to north end)
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

On TV it looks like he caught it on the South end and returned it to the North end. Correct?


i wasn't there. my dad was. it has to be south to north b/c they would have filmed that from the press box, which would have been located on the west side.
Posted by wilfont
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:49 pm to
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Did anyone have speed back then

Certainly not the same speed as today's players. In Billy Cannon's time he was considered very fast for a football player.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:55 pm to
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Did anyone have speed back then...


Cannon ran track.
He ran a 10 flat 100 often, and a couple of times 9.6 which was world class at the time.

The field was muddy.

he was covered in mud.


Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:57 pm to
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In Billy Cannon's time he was considered very fast for a football player.



He ran 100 yards in 9.5 seconds; coverted to 100 meters, it is 10.39.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:57 pm to
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He ran a 10 flat 100 often, and a couple of times 9.6 which was world class at the time.


bullshite.

Absolute and utter bullshite.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:58 pm to
I didn't see it but was told it was South to North. I always watch for the "extra referee" who found his way onto the field and ran down the sideline with him. He got in the game because he brought a ref's uniform with him and no one questioned him.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 1:58 pm to
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Bull shite.

Absolute and utter bull shite.


Why ?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:00 pm to
We joke about that, but the old film does distort the reality of the situation.

One, I believe it was a pretty sloppy field.

Two, Cannon's fastest 100 yard dash was a hand-timed 9.4. That converts to about a 10.37, electronically times 100m. While that's not setting the world on fire, it would be comparable to what most of our skill athletes would run. Also, Cannon carried some size and lots of strength with that speed - over 6' and he played at LSU at about 205 to 208 pounds, though he played a little heavier in the pros.

He was an exceptionally gifted athlete for his era. Cannon would earn a scholarship today. He would not start (except possibly at safety), but could play backup corner, tailback or H-back and would still be able to return kicks.
Posted by wilfont
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:01 pm to
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He ran 100 yards in 9.5 seconds;

I've always thought he was more a 9.9 guy over 100 yards. Still fast in the 50's but 9.5 is absolutely blazing.
Posted by Celtic Tiger
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Cannon's run question...
Were any of you at that Halloween 1959 game who may remember in what direction Cannon returned his famous 89 yard punt return?
On TV it looks like he caught it on the South end and returned it to the North end. Correct?


In the 50's cameras were set up in the press box. That will gice you the answer.
Posted by Tigertrot
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:05 pm to
Cannon would be considered very fast today. He ran a 9.4 100 yard dash at a time when the world record was 9.3. A 9.4 at 100 yards translates to about 10.1 100 meters. In those days, they didn't have the fast synthetic tracks that you see today. They ran on dirt with a layer of cinders on the surface.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:15 pm to
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He would not start



Are you freaking kidding me. The guy was one of the best all time and won the Heisman trophy and you are really going to sit here and say he only would have maybe started at Safety if recruited today. Really?
This post was edited on 11/19/10 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:17 pm to
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Why ?


Because the only being to ever run a 9.6 100 or below is Usain Bolt.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:18 pm to
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bullshite.

Absolute and utter bullshite.

PEEJ's about to come in here and mess you up.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:20 pm to
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Why ?



quote:

Because the only being to ever run a 9.6 100 or below is Usain Bolt.



100 yards my man, not 100 meters of today. They only ran 100 yards back in the day, actually probably up until the late 80's early 90's started running meters in the USA. I could be wrong.


Posted by wilfont
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Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 11/19/10 at 2:21 pm to
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Because the only being to ever run a 9.6 100 or below is Usain Bolt

The poster said yards not meters.
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