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More Offensive Plays Needed This Year
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:18 pm
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For an offense that averaged a poor 58 plays per game, Crowton is looking for Jefferson to cure another negative. "It's obvious we've got to get plays off a lot faster than we did last year,'' he said. "We should be averaging 10 to 15 more plays a game. And I think we will.''
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Reading this article reminded me of how much fewer plays we ran per game last year. Our offense was simply not on the field enough, or rather, when they got on the field, they could not sustain forward progress. Three and out has been argued plenty on the Rant; however, Crowton's own words shed a more authoritative light on the subject.
If the offense runs 70 plays instead of 58 plays, then obviously there is a better opportunity to score points and win the game.
Why wasn't a change made mid season last year? I don't know, but at least this season the problem is being vocalized by a coach who is most responsible (or close to it) for seeing that it happens.
Of course, the offense must execute more consistently, which is the single most "tell" that will be observed in the first game.
This post was edited on 8/12/10 at 12:21 pm
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:21 pm to mrbayoublu
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Crowton is looking for Jefferson to cure another negative. "It's obvious we've got to get plays off a lot faster than we did last year,'' he said. "We should be averaging 10 to 15 more plays a game. And I think we will.''
Says the guy who ran a "check with me" offense for the first 11 games.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:22 pm to mrbayoublu
The offense can't stay on the field when you go three and out.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:22 pm to mrbayoublu
I think they did recognize it last year, and tried to change it up...but it didn't work very well. There was the "meerkat" offense, and then a game or two that they didn't run it...or didn't run it the whole game. Still didn't generate a huge number of offensive plays. I think this year we will, just because they've had the whole offseason to adjust...and spring and fall practice to adapt.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:27 pm to mrbayoublu
every thing that miles & crowton say right now is the kinda shite you want to hear, but they basically say the things you want to hear before every season.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:29 pm to mrbayoublu
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We should be averaging 10 to 15 more plays a game.
Maybe if crowton got the play in sooner lsu
Would have
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:31 pm to Fishhead
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For an offense that averaged a poor 58 plays per game
This
When you run the play clock to 0 every play, you will have a shorter game and less plays.
and
When you constantly change formations and personnel on offense (and have a lot of motion) you are going to burn a lot of time.
Finally the motion, multiple personnel packages and multiple formations lead to illegal motion, false starts and busted plays. These mistakes get you a lot of 3 and outs and keep your offense off the field.
These are all coaching philosophy problems. Crowton needs to point the finger at himself for these problems.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:31 pm to Coach Klein
quote:Expect more of the same. What you saw last year is Crowton at 100%.
The offense can't stay on the field when you go three and out.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:37 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Crowton needs to point the finger at himself for these problems.
Good one!
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:37 pm to mrbayoublu
last season, lsu had the most miserable offense of any lsu football team that i've ever seen and yet crowton still has his job.
what's the true story? didn't les want to get rid of crowton after last season, but aleva wouldn't let him? if that's true, than that's basically an f u to miles from aleva.
what's the true story? didn't les want to get rid of crowton after last season, but aleva wouldn't let him? if that's true, than that's basically an f u to miles from aleva.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:41 pm to mrbayoublu
I would not put the blame for lack of plays on a first year starting quarterback. Instead, I would place blame where blame is due, on Crowton himself.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:47 pm to mrbayoublu
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Why wasn't a change made mid season last year?
There is a ton of what ifs regarding last year. Why didn’t they try revamping the offensive line last year when it became obvious it wasn’t working? Perhaps we could have move Barksdale to left tackle since Black was injured and moved Black to guard since there was no push up the middle. There is a lot of things they could have done, but instead it is like they just gave up trying to win and we ended up with the 112th ranked offense.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:47 pm to Dead Fish
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I would not put the blame for lack of plays on a first year starting quarterback. Instead, I would place blame where blame is due, on Crowton himself.
It's definitely both. Crowton did little to tweek his playcalling or the time it took to get plays in and Jefferson improved very little throughout the season at managing the game and minimizing negative plays which kill drives.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:51 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Jefferson improved very little throughout the season at managing the game
Please explain this to me.
Was Jefferson calling plays last year?
Was he calling personnel packages?
Did he install the "check with me" offense?
Can you explain how Jefferson inadequately "managed the game?"
Posted on 8/12/10 at 12:51 pm to FootballNostradamus
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It's definitely both. Crowton did little to tweek his playcalling or the time it took to get plays in and Jefferson improved very little throughout the season at managing the game and minimizing negative plays which kill drives
Which goes back to coaching again brah.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 1:04 pm to Antonio Moss
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Please explain this to me.
Ok I'll try
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Was Jefferson calling plays last year?
That's easy, no. Thanks for starting me off with an easy one
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Was he calling personnel packages?
No (these are really easy quesions)
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Did he install the "check with me" offense?
Negative ghost rider
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Can you explain how Jefferson inadequately "managed the game?"
O now this one might take a little longer.
There are many things Jefferson could have done to improve on managing the offense.
The first one was simply minimizing the negative plays. These are absolute killers to a drive and the main reason we had so many three-and-outs. Getting a first down or two and allowing the defense to rest and flipping the field position is how the offense manages the game.
Second he and Crowton should have discussed whatever the hell was taking so long to get plays off. Was Crowton having to repeat them to Jefferson? Was Crowton taking too long to select them? Was Jefferson not identifying and making calls at the LOS quick enough? I don't know the answer but it was quite obvious that there was a disconnect between QB and OC, something that wasn't present under Flynn.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 1:10 pm to FootballNostradamus
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The first one was simply minimizing the negative plays.
Agree, but that kind of falls out the spectrum of game management.
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These are absolute killers to a drive and the main reason we had so many three-and-outs.
Yeah, no.
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Getting a first down or two and allowing the defense to rest and flipping the field position is how the offense manages the game.
Doesn't this fall more on the coaching staff? Jefferson just does what he's told. Shouldn't Crowton be calling better plays? Making better adjustment? Amending personnel to get better match ups?
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Second he and Crowton should have discussed whatever the hell was taking so long to get plays off.
Yes, a first year starter should let our OC know that "check with me" is a stupid way to run an offense.
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Was Crowton having to repeat them to Jefferson?
Uh, no. Typically, we'd break the huddle with about 15 seconds on the play clock and only the formation known by the players. Then, Crowton would look at the defensive set and call the play from the sidelines. Then Jefferson would have to read the defense and make any adjustments at line. It's a cumbersome and ineffective way to run an offense.
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I don't know the answer
Obviously.
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something that wasn't present under Flynn.
See 5th Year QB developed by someone other than Crowton. For an easier reference, see "the trend."
Posted on 8/12/10 at 1:13 pm to FootballNostradamus
Sure Jefferson could have done better at some points, but Crowton is by far the biggest problem. Crowton tries too hard to catch the defense off guard, instead he confuses his players and it effects execution. Besides sticking with what works, Crowton has a mentality that the defense will figure out how to stop it, so he stops doing what's working. After watching the replays on cox, sometimes he just gives up on drives and calls dinky 1 or 2 yard pass plays on 3rd and 8.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 1:14 pm to Dead Fish
quote:It is soooo boring; totally lacks imagination; predictable; 10 in the box this year?? zero execution.
Crowton did little to tweek his playcalling
This article is worth yet another look.
This post was edited on 8/12/10 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 8/12/10 at 1:19 pm to tigerpawl
Memo to Crowton: you get more plays by making first downs.
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