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Please Stop them from cutting the pipe!
Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:36 pm
I worked offshore like many of you and just like I know and you if they cut the riser at the top, there will be a high pressure free flow of oil and gas, they will be trying to siphon this oil and gas out of the riser, if a storm comes while they are doing this, they will have to shut down operations, and will not be able to cap the hole. They will have to leave this free flowing hole open and think about how long it will take to get back in position after the storm. I hope my people in louisiana can stop these people from making this blunder. I just hope that they don't proceed with cutting the riser because it can kill the whole gulf. What a waste...my prayers are with you all.
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Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:38 pm to FtBelvoirTiger
probably too late for that now....
Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:52 pm to FtBelvoirTiger
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worked offshore like many of you and just like I know and you if they cut the riser at the top, there will be a high pressure free flow of oil and gas, they will be trying to siphon this oil and gas out of the riser, if a storm comes while they are doing this, they will have to shut down operations, and will not be able to cap the hole.
Would you suggest that they just wait until the relief well is drilled? What happens if a storm comes and the relief well can not be put into operation until December? Is a restricted flow that you can not recover better than a free flow that you can contain? Either choice sucks but I guess you have a chance with this to stop the oil from contaminating the Gulf further.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:56 pm to StrangeBrew
From the flow coming out of the riser now, it doesnt look like the bend is stopping much if any of the flow.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 5:16 pm to Oyster
Hmm let's see. I open a can of sodey pop and pour some out and it has a flow rate.
Then I cut the top off the can and the whole amount comes out immdeiately.
The larger opening size is going to facilitate an increase in the flow rate. If the aggregate area of current tears are less than the 21" pipe dimater, it's going to increase if it is sawn off.
Now take their track record of success. Why wasn't this tried before if it was a workeable solution? Cost or level of risk. Or the shear fact that nothing will actually work.
Then I cut the top off the can and the whole amount comes out immdeiately.
The larger opening size is going to facilitate an increase in the flow rate. If the aggregate area of current tears are less than the 21" pipe dimater, it's going to increase if it is sawn off.
Now take their track record of success. Why wasn't this tried before if it was a workeable solution? Cost or level of risk. Or the shear fact that nothing will actually work.
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 5/31/10 at 5:59 pm to homecat
Until they did the top kill stuff and the diagnostics they didn't know that the bend in the riser wasn't providing much of any restriction. This has played a part in their course of action now and early on.
Better to stop the flow most of the time and IF a storm comes have a somewhat higher flow during the storm. Makes no sense to not capture the flow most or all of the time if possible because it MIGHT be worse IF a storm comes.
Better to stop the flow most of the time and IF a storm comes have a somewhat higher flow during the storm. Makes no sense to not capture the flow most or all of the time if possible because it MIGHT be worse IF a storm comes.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 8:04 pm to omegaman66
Why can't they cut the flange bolts off, remove the flange and install a new one with a valve? All the bolts seem to be fairly accessible. Or unbolt if possible.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 8:08 pm to tipup
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Why can't they cut the flange bolts off
That's not gonna happen but I do wonder why they can't get a torque wrench in there and break them loose but maybe the leak would get in the way of that.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 8:20 pm to offshoretrash
If they get everything in place and flow is directed up the pipe, will they be able to plug well down the pipe?
Posted on 5/31/10 at 8:29 pm to 79ABTEXTIGER
Why don't they create some relief "holes" in the pipe sticking out, seal the top after the pressure drops due to new escape routes, and then plug the relief holes.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 9:42 pm to LSUTigahBait
there are experts that still say the only way is to blow it up ! similar to how land wells are put out.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:04 pm to 756
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there are experts that still say the only way is to blow it up ! similar to how land wells are put out.
The explosives are used on land wells to blow out the fire! It has nothing other to do with well control than getting rid of the fire and reducing the heat. With the heat down you can work on capping the well.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:34 pm to 756
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there are experts that still say the only way is to blow it up ! similar to how land wells are put out.
Geeze. You have no clue of whats going on do you?
Posted on 6/1/10 at 9:04 am to pochejp
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:47 am to FtBelvoirTiger
hell it might pull the well too hard and cause it to sand up or the casing to collapse
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