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Oil Entering Louisiana Marshes

Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:22 pm
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:22 pm








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Oil affecting Pass a Loutre and South Pass in Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana DEQ reports
By The Times-Picayune
May 18, 2010, 4:24PM

Department of Environmental Quality staffers participating in a flyover Monday documented oil impacting along the shoreline of the Pass a Loutre Wildlife Management Area and on the beaches west of South Pass in Plaquemines Parish, the state's Joint Information Center said Tuesday.

According to NOAA on May 17, since the beginning of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, 29 miles of Louisiana's coastline already have seen oil reach the shore, the Joint Information Center news release said. Areas impacted by oil include: Trinity Island, Whiskey Island, South Pass, the Chandeleur Islands, Fourchon Beach, Raccoon Island and Grand Isle. Oil sheen has been reported in Pass a Loutre and the state has received unconfirmed reports of oil on Marsh Island in Iberia Parish.

The DEQ pictures of the oil at Pas A Loutre Wildlife Management Area and South Pass beaches can be seen at https://bit.ly/aZUKx6.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:26 pm to
Very disturbing. Hopefully the heavy rains today will help wash that out before it gets to set in.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:30 pm to
Should be interesting to take photo shots from the same position from the next month and watch it gradually transition from being a nice marsh, do a brown die-back marsh, to a tidal mud flat, to open water.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:31 pm to
depressing
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24519 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:34 pm to
Just saw this on the CBS Evening News.

fricked up thing is, BP blocked CBS from getting to the site of where the oil is coming ashore. Who the frick are they to tell people where they can go?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:39 pm to
BP has blocked a large number of scientists from going out and sampling as well.

Not to mention they have the technology to get a better idea of the flow however BP wont let any scientists even near the site.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8515 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Who the frick are they to tell people where they can go?


I couldn't agree more! I don't know why they have so much authority all of a sudden.

This plus they have been dragging their feet on building the barrier islands which would help keep the oil out of the marshes and now we are starting to see the impacts.

Their actions lately have really started pissing me off.

Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:53 pm to
This is why many are wanting more govt control in this disaster.

At least let scientists help in the matter. Hell 28 days later and oil is still oozing into the Gulf.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

BP has blocked a large number of scientists from going out and sampling as well.


They have to protect themselves from biased sampling.

This is going to be a shite show regardless and the last thing they need is every tom dick and harry PhD coming up with ridiculous numbers because they took 200 samples, and threw out any that didn't agree with their theory.

See: Global Warming conspiracy.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:57 pm to
Everyone else is biased and BP isn't.
Posted by mmill32
Williamson County, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
2994 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:58 pm to
wonder how long the subaerial to subaqeous transition will take once the oil sets in. are we talking before hurricane season to the affected areas?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 6:02 pm to
Biased sampling

sweet jesus
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Everyone else is biased and BP isn't.



No, and BP is not doing the sampling. Government agencies will handle that.

If you can't see my point, you really need to try to look at it from both sides.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

Biased sampling

sweet jesus


Yeah, here's the situation:

I am a scientist, I go and take 200 samples pre oil spill and 200 samples post oil spill. I keep no accurate record of what I have actually done for pre oil spill, and only report the cleanest 50 or so samples, then compare them to all of the post spill samples. Even if nothing has changed, the study shows significant pollution and I get paid a TON of money to testify in the court cases.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

wonder how long the subaerial to subaqeous transition will take once the oil sets in. are we talking before hurricane season to the affected areas?


Its a matter of a month or so for a healthy marsh to become a brown die back marsh if the plants are stressed and cannot ungergo photosynthesis.

Scientists have been studying oil on vegetation for years and there is a microbe agent that can be sprayed on the plants to consume the oil.

If a cleanup crew is sent in. All the trampling around will do far more damage to the marsh than just letting it be and nature taking its course.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 6:11 pm to
All the samples need to be collected by EPA certified personel and witnesses sign off on each sample and strict records are kept for each sample and whereabouts.

I have collected numerous samples already as baseline data.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

If a cleanup crew is sent in. All the trampling around will do far more damage to the marsh than just letting it be and nature taking its course.


This is what I was thinking.
There is no way they can clean the marsh IMO and this is where the greatest tragedy other then the 11 lives lost will occur.

Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 8:38 pm to
Many scientists have written letters to BP explaining the delicate nature of the wetlands and what years of research investigating potential oil spills on wetland vegetation will due and what appropriate actions should be taken.

We'll see.....
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

All the samples need to be collected by EPA certified personel and witnesses sign off on each sample and strict records are kept for each sample and whereabouts.

I have collected numerous samples already as baseline data.


So we agree?
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10943 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 9:17 am to
Natural seepage people! Nothing to see here.

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