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School Pride vs. Investigative Reporting
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:39 am
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:39 am
This is a spin off of The Reveille Article. If you were a reporter and had the choice whether or not you wanted to do that article which might possibly expose LSU for what happened, would you. Basically to me it seems some people would rather be the first to get all the info and beat out big newspapers than have school pride. I am saying they should write an article about it AFTER everything has been found out and the NCAA has taken action. Why feed the fire? This looks bad on the school YOU go to, regardless of how much you support the football team. To me, they should not have run this article whether they had true information or not.
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Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:46 am to RelientAA
i agree.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:46 am to RelientAA
You make very good points.
Journalistic integrity and investigative reporting doesn't necessarily mean that you have to be brash about it and try for the scoop (whether it exists or not).
Reporters, nowadays, don't remember or realize that few decades back, journalists often sat on scoops just to ensure that the news were the real facts and not a partial shading that lent itself to a biased version of the truth.
But, given the cutthroat nature of the business, with too many reporters and not too many outlets (paying ones), it is best to build a resume with scoops , regardless of how it affects the people in it or the community in general.
Journalistic integrity and investigative reporting doesn't necessarily mean that you have to be brash about it and try for the scoop (whether it exists or not).
Reporters, nowadays, don't remember or realize that few decades back, journalists often sat on scoops just to ensure that the news were the real facts and not a partial shading that lent itself to a biased version of the truth.
But, given the cutthroat nature of the business, with too many reporters and not too many outlets (paying ones), it is best to build a resume with scoops , regardless of how it affects the people in it or the community in general.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:48 am to CalTiger
I personally would have not written anything. I love LSU football and LSU as a whole. Why would I want to make us look bad or even give the NCAA more info.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:32 am to RelientAA
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I personally would have not written anything. I love LSU football and LSU as a whole. Why would I want to make us look bad or even give the NCAA more info.
cause the NCAA loves schools that self report...they really get their panties in a wad if you try to cover it up. if the reporter had two reliable sources that confirmed the story then he/she had every right and obligation to report what he/she knew. if the story did not meet that criteria then he/she is a schmuck.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:35 am to byubengalboy
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if the reporter had two reliable sources that confirmed the story then he/she had every right and obligation to report what he/she knew.
Just because they don't report anything does not mean the are covering something up. Why not wait until everything is done and NCAA has taken action then report on what happened. Not what they THINK happened.
Do they really have a obligation to report it? Don't they also have an obligation as a fan to avoid things like this?
This post was edited on 12/10/09 at 10:37 am
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:36 am to RelientAA
The story always comes out. In fact, that story was already out.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:41 am to RelientAA
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Do they really have a obligation to report it?
If they are teaching real journalism at LSU, then yes.
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Don't they also have an obligation as a fan to avoid things like this?
You mean like a democrat or republican journalist not telling the story to protect their party?
Is this really what you want from journalists?
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:46 am to JustSmokin
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You mean like a democrat or republican journalist not telling the story to protect their party?
Is this really what you want from journalists?
I think it is different because everyone who goes to LSU is in the same boat. What I am trying to say is, if it was me I would not do this story. I would not voluntarilly show my school in a bad light, aka I would wait until we found out EVERYTHING and what the NCAA did about it. Then and only then would I report about it because I feel I have an obligation to the fans to let them know what is going on and what happened.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:51 am to RelientAA
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I think it is different because everyone who goes to LSU is in the same boat. What I am trying to say is, if it was me I would not do this story. I would not voluntarilly show my school in a bad light, aka I would wait until we found out EVERYTHING and what the NCAA did about it. Then and only then would I report about it because I feel I have an obligation to the fans to let them know what is going on and what happened.
Journalists give up biases and allegiance towards organizations. That's what makes them journalists. According to your philosophy you would have told Woodward and Bernstein to hold off publishing the Watergate stories because of their roles as U.S. citizens. The Reveille did the right thing. They don't answer to LSU, they answer to journalistic integrity. Just like every other newspaper in the country.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:54 am to RelientAA
"Investigative journalists" create news instead of reporting it.
In a sense, I can't blame them. Being a newsie means devoting your life to writing about what significant thigns that other people are doing with their lives instead of doing anything of consequence with one's own life.
However, being an "investigative journalist" typically means ruining someone's career for the sake of advancing one's own career. I've yet to see an "investigative" piece that makes anyone smile or feel better about life.
In my career, I've had to deal with the damage that these "investigative journalists" cause to others (not me). They aren't always even accurate, which is the worst part of it. I have seen major tv "investigative journalists" put out stories that are laced with inaccuracies (out of context quotes and just plain-out falsehoods) that ruined people...but as long as it gets ratings, that's all that matters.
"Investigative journalists" are the lowest of society...I have more respect for common criminals...they only rob people of their possessions and aren't so smug and sanctimonious about what they do.
In a sense, I can't blame them. Being a newsie means devoting your life to writing about what significant thigns that other people are doing with their lives instead of doing anything of consequence with one's own life.
However, being an "investigative journalist" typically means ruining someone's career for the sake of advancing one's own career. I've yet to see an "investigative" piece that makes anyone smile or feel better about life.
In my career, I've had to deal with the damage that these "investigative journalists" cause to others (not me). They aren't always even accurate, which is the worst part of it. I have seen major tv "investigative journalists" put out stories that are laced with inaccuracies (out of context quotes and just plain-out falsehoods) that ruined people...but as long as it gets ratings, that's all that matters.
"Investigative journalists" are the lowest of society...I have more respect for common criminals...they only rob people of their possessions and aren't so smug and sanctimonious about what they do.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:56 am to Rohan2Reed
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They don't answer to LSU
Dont they get paid by LSU?
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:56 am to sml71
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"Investigative journalists" are the lowest of society...I have more respect for common criminals...they only rob people of their possessions and aren't so smug and sanctimonious about what they do.
This is one of the most moronic sentences I have ever read.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:57 am to CalTiger
Journalistic integrity???? Oh, I see, an oxymoron!!!
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:58 am to Rohan2Reed
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Dont they get paid by LSU?
I don't know for sure if they get money directly from the university, but I'm sure they must. they primarily raise money through a student-run advertising department though.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:58 am to sml71
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"Investigative journalists" create news instead of reporting it.
I think that is what I am trying to say. They do have an obligation to report what is going on, but I dont think it is their job to dig and create news. Why can't they just wait, find out all of the info from the NCAA and REPORT that.
This post was edited on 12/10/09 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/10/09 at 11:01 am to RelientAA
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Why can't they just wait, find out all of the info from the NCAA and REPORT that.
Because that would be called getting scooped. Come on guys, this is the way every newsroom in the world works. When you have verified information you print it.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 11:02 am to arrakis
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Then take the word newspaper out of the description
why?
Posted on 12/10/09 at 11:03 am to Rohan2Reed
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When you have verified information you print it.
No matter how it makes your University look?
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