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Stansbury's technical at the end of regulation
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:02 am
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:02 am
what are the rules around that ? How come the ft's we shot didn't win the game ?
I'm just curious;this isn't a 'referee bashing post' and it would have been a somewhat hollow way to have won a great game that way. Still,I thought the ft's would have counted within regulation.
Nothing in the Advocate and Hawthorne and Ford just said too bad it didn't happen with :00:1 left.
Anyone else wondering the same thing ?
I'm just curious;this isn't a 'referee bashing post' and it would have been a somewhat hollow way to have won a great game that way. Still,I thought the ft's would have counted within regulation.
Nothing in the Advocate and Hawthorne and Ford just said too bad it didn't happen with :00:1 left.
Anyone else wondering the same thing ?
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Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:03 am to I-59 Tiger
im guessing because the clock was at zero already?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:04 am to I-59 Tiger
quote:
what are the rules around that ? How come the ft's we shot didn't win the game ?
I'm just curious;this isn't a 'referee bashing post' and it would have been a somewhat hollow way to have won a great game that way. Still,I thought the ft's would have counted within regulation.
Nothing in the Advocate and Hawthorne and Ford just said too bad it didn't happen with :00:1 left.
Anyone else wondering the same thing ?
Quite simply, the technical foul occurred after regulation ended.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:04 am to I-59 Tiger
Foul came AFTER end regulation
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:05 am to Elleshoe
I was wondering if there was some 'gray area' with when a session ends and another one will start.
Again,just curious. Kind of an odd sequence.
Again,just curious. Kind of an odd sequence.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:22 am to I-59 Tiger
I had the same thought, and then thought about a technical that happens at halftime. If a T is called after the first half ends, the shots are taken at the beginning of the second half. I assume that this is a somewhat analogous situation where the T "counts" toward the OT period and not the 2nd half. I know that doesn't clear it all up, but that is the only way I could figure it. Well, that and the fact that they actually played OT after the technical FTs gave us the lead with :00 on the clock.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:22 am to I-59 Tiger
It would be just like a technical getting called at the end of the 1st half. The team would shoot the free throws at the beginning of the 2nd half. In this case it happened to be at the end of a tie ballgame.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:28 am to CWilken21
I understand why the FT's didnt count towards regulation. What i don't understand is why we didn't automatically get the ball to begin the OT. Doesn't a T give you two shots and the ball?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:34 am to lsufishnhunt
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Doesn't a T give you two shots and the ball?
No, they changed that rule several years ago. Possession goes to the team who last had possession. In this case, no team had possession so it goes to the jump ball.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 8:35 am
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:45 am to JustSmokin
Now on a Technical foul it is two shots and the ball is put back into play wherever play was interrupted. Since OT hadn't started, it went to the tip.
On the other issue, once regulation ends in a tie the game MUST go to OT. I have even seen an issue where 10 seconds into OT one team protested the score, and they they found an error in the score. The error was corrected (and the team was awarded a point), but OT had to be played, once you start OT you have to finish.
On the other issue, once regulation ends in a tie the game MUST go to OT. I have even seen an issue where 10 seconds into OT one team protested the score, and they they found an error in the score. The error was corrected (and the team was awarded a point), but OT had to be played, once you start OT you have to finish.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:46 am to ellessuuuu
I understand now, thanks for the clarification
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:47 am to ellessuuuu
Man I was about to go crazy. I was listening to the game in the kitchen of my restaurant. It was kind of hard to hear with everyone talking and all, and I originally thought they had said that we had fouled state on their last halfcourt shot attempt.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 8:57 am to tmart2912
It was a dead ball foul.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:52 am to USMC DAWG
New Rule this year:
Creation of two categories of Technical Fouls; Type A technical fouls are for unsportsmanlike conduct and will replace Direct Technical Fouls. Type B fouls deal with infractions of the rules that neither involves contact nor causes contact with opponent and fall below the limit of an unsportsmanlike act.
Type B replaces Indirect Technical Fouls. If you were to score Type A technicals as 3 points and Type B level as 2 points then it will take 6 points or more (2 As, 3Bs or 1A&2Bs) to get ejected [Fouls & Penalties 10-3, 10-4] -This seems like a nightmare for scorekeepers.
Creation of two categories of Technical Fouls; Type A technical fouls are for unsportsmanlike conduct and will replace Direct Technical Fouls. Type B fouls deal with infractions of the rules that neither involves contact nor causes contact with opponent and fall below the limit of an unsportsmanlike act.
Type B replaces Indirect Technical Fouls. If you were to score Type A technicals as 3 points and Type B level as 2 points then it will take 6 points or more (2 As, 3Bs or 1A&2Bs) to get ejected [Fouls & Penalties 10-3, 10-4] -This seems like a nightmare for scorekeepers.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:54 am to PapaChief
Once the buzzer sounds. Regulation is over no matter what. The only exception is to review a made shot at the buzzer.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 1:20 pm to geauxtigahs87
quote:Just pondering some possibilities here, but what if a technical foul is called after the buzzer sounds but while the buzzer beater is still in the air? Also, what if a technical foul is called while a buzzer beater is being reviewed?
Once the buzzer sounds. Regulation is over no matter what. The only exception is to review a made shot at the buzzer.
That would make for some fun threads on the refs!
Posted on 2/12/09 at 1:36 pm to King Joey
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Just pondering some possibilities here, but what if a technical foul is called after the buzzer sounds but while the buzzer beater is still in the air?
administer in the order they happened. Shot is released, horn sounds, tech is called, the shot goes in, count it, then shoot the tech
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Also, what if a technical foul is called while a buzzer beater is being reviewed?
same thing, finish the review of the buzzer beater then administer the technical
Posted on 2/12/09 at 1:41 pm to I-59 Tiger
The only reason Brady didn't get a technical was because he wasn't there.
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