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re: Wood working question- Update: Finished pics on page 3

Posted on 6/19/14 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 12:22 pm to
How has no one mentioned the most dangerous saw in wood shop?

The radial arm saw.


They make very nice sliding miter saws now that combine the precision of a compound miter saw and the capacity of a radial arm saw and they even come with cut mark lazer indicators that reduce the chance of cutting your arm off. You will need to take a 7x9" block in to assure capacity though.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 12:33 pm to
Thanks for all the responses. Got several ideas I'm going to try out see which works the best. Got the beams milled today down to 6x8. My miter saw should be able to handle that. The length of the beams is an issue cause they are heavy. Rigged up a stand with some rollers that will help roll the beams into place after each cut.

I am going to need to find some quality blades cause this stuff is hard. Couldn't cut thru it with a sawzall.

I'll take pictures of my progress and post them up when I get finished.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13881 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

The length of the beams is an issue cause they are heavy.


If you cut them in half, they will probably weigh about half the weight...
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:35 pm to
No crap, a radial arm saw is what you need.

Using a band saw would be a bitch.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24983 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:03 pm to
Just use your miter saw. Sliding miter saw would be better. Just use a stop on the fence that's the thickness that you need. Slide the wood to the srop, cut, flip and cut again.

But you really need a stop on your fence to keep the thickness the same every cut.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:38 pm to
In case anyone was wondering the biggest DeWalt miter saw they have at Lowes won't cut clear thru a 6x8 beam.


On to plan B
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:52 am to
How thick do you plan on the final tiles being? Sanding growth rings is a major pain in the arse. If those tiles are not thick enough they will break apart due to lack of cohesion between the rings.
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:03 am to
I wouldn't sand shite until after install. Belt sander and heavy coats of urathane after.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:40 am to
quote:

How thick do you plan on the final tiles being? Sanding growth rings is a major pain in the arse. If those tiles are not thick enough they will break apart due to lack of cohesion between the rings.


1/2" thick. They will be sanded on the floor after gluing down. That should keep them together, hopefully.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:55 am to
Makita 16" beam saw, I think they are $700 though

might be able to rent one
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:59 am to
I would do a small test section before you try the whole floor. Just use a skill saw to cut a few and finish them. Use it as a doormat for a couple of weeks to see how it holds up.
Posted by TigerTaco
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2011
373 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:06 am to
I'd check to see if an abrasive, metal cutoff saw has enough capacity. Just replace the blade. I have a Harbor Freight model that was around $100 and it has at least a 14" blade. There are also masonry cutting chop saws that will cut cinder blocks, but those are probably expensive.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:41 am to
This is something I would not do.

I worke din a saw mill/ lumber yard for quite a while. When you start getting into the board, you will start seeing splits and stuff that are going to make you regret this. SAnding is going to be too much work if it doesnt rip the wood apart. If I were you I would go have tounge and groove made out of it or Philly strips. You can have that run through a planer and the size will be uniform and ready to glue and tack down.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45804 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I worke din a saw mill/ lumber yard for quite a while. When you start getting into the board, you will start seeing splits and stuff that are going to make you regret this. SAnding is going to be too much work if it doesnt rip the wood apart. If I were you I would go have tounge and groove made out of it or Philly strips. You can have that run through a planer and the size will be uniform and ready to glue and tack down.


I agree, this has cluster frick written all over it...
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:52 am to
Als looking at the grain, you will get some pretty awesome tiger stripe looking features so the floor will look really good. You will see a lot of quartersawn features in those pieces of lumber.

the cracks worry me though, how many sq ft are you looking to cover?
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:43 am to
quote:

the cracks worry me though, how many sq ft are you looking to cover?


Yeah there will be some cracks. I'm going to fill the cracks and joints with a mixture of sawdust and wood glue to make a grout. I'm only doing 120 sqft so not too much.

I've seen it done before and looks awesome so hopefully it turns out. Old factories use to use end grain blocks for flooring because of its strength.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45804 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:49 am to
One thing you have going for you is the age of the beams. They should be stable so less cracking...
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24983 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

I'm going to fill the cracks and joints with a mixture of sawdust and wood glue to make a grout.


Epoxy would work much, much better.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:51 pm to
I agree, but I also agree with Headhead.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17700 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:36 pm to
Do not attempt to do this those beams are already checking the tiles will fall apart that is a shite pile of work for a floor that is not that stable
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