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re: Will never buy another 870 express...

Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19620 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:49 pm to
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you spent an hour and 45 minutes cleaning an 870 Express?



No shite, I can strip mine blind folded in under a minute.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:51 pm to
Why so mad?

It is a durable INEXPENSIVE gun. Wingmaster was the shite.

Can you explain how your's jammed? Those words are never words that Ive ever used in the same sentence as mine. And I don't clean mine often. a spray of oil here and there and a wipe of the outside IMMEDIATELY upon returning.

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I want to teach him to take care of his stuff.


So you leave it sitting around wet for an extended period of time. Seems the lesson he learned is how hard it is to fix something you procrastinated on in the first place.

For rust to occur you need 3 things, metal, air, and moisture. If you wiped the moisture off, there could be no rust.

You "may" have a defective situation...contact the manufacturer.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 1:56 pm
Posted by ducksnbass
Member since Apr 2014
754 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:43 pm to
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Can you explain how your's jammed?


Yes, shoddy workmanship. Wouldn't allow the new shell to slide smoothly into the chamber. Too many sharp, unfinished edges. Then, the fired shell would stick in the chamber. Had to disassemble the gun in the field several times to remove the shell.

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So you leave it sitting around wet for an extended period of time. Seems the lesson he learned is how hard it is to fix something you procrastinated on in the first place.


Thanks, your sarcastic insight is insightful.

I already said I didn't have time to get to it right away. I usually clean things up "If needed" right away. I'm glad yours is the epitome of reliability and workmanship. Congratulations!
Posted by chadg
The Avoyelles Parish
Member since Dec 2007
2878 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:50 pm to
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Yes, shoddy workmanship. Wouldn't allow the new shell to slide smoothly into the chamber. Too many sharp, unfinished edges. Then, the fired shell would stick in the chamber. Had to disassemble the gun in the field several times to remove the shell.


You might have a defective gun, because even though an 870 express is not as "finished" as a wingmaster, every one i have ever owned has functioned flawlessly and never had problems anything close to this. My son has 2 of the youth models as well and they have functioned well except for the recoil...
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
3532 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:03 pm to
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Wouldn't allow the new shell to slide smoothly into the chamber. Too many sharp, unfinished edges. Then, the fired shell would stick in the chamber. Had to disassemble the gun in the field several times to remove the shell.


This is very common with the 870s under the "new" remington ownership. They are not fully smoothing the forcing cone down and the shells are catching. This is something that can be easily fixed with a Dremel, but some people don't tolerate manufacturing defects in new firearms.

That said, all of my 870s run like a top, but they are pre-Cerebus
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:05 pm to
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I already said I didn't have time to get to it right away.


I know man, sometimes life is tough, unforgiving, unyielding, often unfair. Many times after coming in from hunting, I just didn't have an extra 20 seconds in the next several days to rub my old oily rag on the metal of my gun. And besides, Remy ain't werf a shite, anyway. You'll knock their pecker in the dirt by not buying another one.
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:48 pm to
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We hunted Saturday in the rain and didn't have time to clean the guns until last night.


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I did wipe them down and blow the water out of them with the air compressor.


If you had time to wipe it down and wait for the compressor to fill up you had time to clean an 870. Takes about 10-15 min. Makes sure to rub some oil on the outside of the gun after cleaning to prevent this in the future. I've had my 870 since I started duck hunting as a youth, never had any issues. Coincidentally, I bought a Mossberg pump back then first, had to return it after the first skeet session and got the 870.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:02 pm to
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We hunted Saturday in the rain and didn't have time to clean the guns until last night.
3 days?!?! I guess fricking so.

And your other one is a Mossberg?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

didn't have time to clean the guns
Then you stop your hunt earlier.


quote:

Not true. My 935 didn't and it was sitting right beside it.
You got lucky this time.


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I was brought up to take care of my stuff which includes cleaning my guns. I typically only clean my gun once after season is over unless I'm hunting in a torrential downpour like I did on Sat.
You weren't taught well. Wipe it down after every hunt and anytime a finger touches metal. Salt from you fingers brah, rust.


quote:

I want to teach him to take care of his stuff.
Not wiping it down right away is not teaching him well.
Posted by Tiger In the Swamp
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
841 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:37 pm to
Game wardens took my 870 when they caught me spotlighting at age 17. I bought a new one the next morning when I bonded out of EF parish prison. And I've used them as a paddle when In a bind. Best thing about 870, they're replaceable.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Thanks, your sarcastic insight is insightful.

I already said I didn't have time to get to it right away. I usually clean things up "If needed" right away. I'm glad yours is the epitome of reliability and workmanship. Congratulations!


No problem bub. As you can tell from the rest of the responses, we think it dumb you didn't get to it sooner. You crow about teaching him how to take care of things, yet you neglected to properly complete the hunt process. Telling me you had time to wipe and blow it of, yet not spray wd or gun oil on it and wipe is insane! We are talking 5 seconds. No need to disassemble each time.
Posted by ducksnbass
Member since Apr 2014
754 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:22 am to
I'm glad y'all have everything figured out and you obviously know my life better than I do. Thanks for allowing me to express "my" opinion based solely on "my" experience and then telling me how "my" experience is obviously wrong.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:28 am to
Man, if I lived by your philosophy on guns, I'd need a new 870 every year.
Posted by DeepSouthSportsman
frick Bama
Member since Jul 2012
4635 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:28 am to
Don't hate on the most reliable shotgun on the market

You should probably go ahead to the help board and request a name change to ducksndumbass!
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 10:30 am
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 2:11 pm to
Your opinion is welcome and respected.....but the methods you used to form them are flawed.

Showing son how to take care of things

cleaning wet gun 4 days later

Please tell us you see the irony of your ways. You dropped the ball here, but I am not so sure I am better than you at anything. Never said that....relax Alice
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97683 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 2:39 pm to
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I sold my previous 870 express because it jammed like crazy


a pump jammed?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17728 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:36 pm to
Gun, crutch, push pole, bat, paddle, rudder,
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32582 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 6:41 pm to
an 870 is like a black iron pot, never clean it

I shoved a shell in the mag backwards one day when the shooting was hot. I field stripped it to get the shell out. The firing pin and mechanism all fell in the rice field at my feet. I pulled it out of the muck, rinsed it in the pond water, reassembled and started shooting for another hour. I don;t know how else to try to kill an 870
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 6:59 pm to
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a pump jammed?

Mine would, sorta. Years ago I had picked one up at a pawn shop for 50 bucks to throw in back of pickup for around farm. Ended up loving it for duck season leaving Browning A-5's in gun cab.

It was old and I used it a lot. Eventually the thin metal strips on each side, that allow the forearm slide down to eject shells, were not aligned right and it wouldn't eject sometimes. I'd have to hold hand on the wood and bang it down.
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