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re: What's your defense ammo?

Posted on 2/16/17 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 5:47 pm to
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Tons and tons of real people have been shot and stopped with proven ammo on the market, how do tests on ballistics gel beat out real world results?





I've shot a shite ton of living flesh with frag rounds. They work.

I prefer velocity and less mass to slow door knobs.

I know which I would rather have a surgeon trying to fox if it was me. A .45 jhp is one big would channel. Lacerations in every direction internally is something else.

Having said that, 10mm 165 grain is a little different than 9mm 45 grain.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 6:10 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28502 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:07 pm to
I'm no balistics expert, but wouldn't those little light drags be more apt to stop when it hits a thick coat...?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27378 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 6:27 pm to
In theory. But they puncture a few layers of denim easily. They also have no issue with hide.

Given how fat the average Joe is, fat is the bigger worry.

Fat minimized the damage of the initial pulverized tissue. It also moves out of the way better than muscle.

They're actually been instances where the bullet entered the front portion of someone's abdomen exited out of their back and actually never passed through their tor soso it stayed below the subcutaneous fat layer.
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5296 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by AU34
Baja Alabama
Member since Feb 2007
440 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 8:48 pm to
Holster gun, 115 grain Corbon +P 1425fps. Pocket gun Corbon 60 grain DPX.
Posted by Tactical Insertion
Member since Feb 2011
3205 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 9:33 pm to
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So you got it as a gift, haven't shot it or researched it? Gotcha'.


Well I HAVE shot the HST round that currently sits in the chambers of my pistols.

And can tell you that I have a bad feeling that I'm going to be severely disappointed in the LCD rounds. But do what you do man I hope I don't read about you in the news.
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
2227 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 7:36 am to
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Well I HAVE shot the HST round that currently sits in the chambers of my pistols.

And can tell you that I have a bad feeling that I'm going to be severely disappointed in the LCD rounds. But do what you do man I hope I don't read about you in the news.
You wouldn't, i'm not important enough
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29287 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:39 pm to
Is nobody going with Hydra-shoks anymore or has everyone that used to use them switched to HSTs?

I've only put hydra-shoks through my Shield (probably less than 300 rounds of that particular ammo though) from a defense ammo standpoint.
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:51 pm to
Yeah it was a good bullet but hat is just better new tech
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Is nobody going with Hydra-shoks anymore or has everyone that used to use them switched to HSTs?



I wouldn't have a problem with 230gr hydra-shoks in .45ACP, but HST is better there, too.
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