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re: What size shot for home defense?

Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by LouisianaChessie
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
2582 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Don't miss

Don't plan on it and I'm sure there a few people that could attest to the way I usually line up with a shotgun but you never want to kill a little democrat in the next apartment over cause you were barely awake.


On second thought... Well nevermind
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:47 pm to
#4 Buckshot
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18574 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:48 pm to
00 buck
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45799 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

At close range (10' or so) bird shot will no spread very far and will be like a slug. Course this also means it will penetrate wall. So just soon go with buckshot of your choosing.


Yep, there is a good chance the shot is still in the wad at this point...
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30592 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

That will injure or kill on the other side if you miss your target.Glad i'm not your neighbor


I'm using a 20 gauge.


I guess I could drop down to Buck number 4.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:59 pm to
Drop to 4 buck
Posted by CoastieGM
Member since Aug 2012
3185 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:12 pm to
Here's an interesting concept as of late (frangible shot slugs).

I haven't tried it personally, but may have merit in an apartment situation.

LINK (blasts a hole through a hog's head)

and

LINK (begins to disintegrate when passing through drywall?
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 8:31 pm
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
3528 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:23 pm to
obligatory


But seriously, if you want to stop a bird, use birdshot. If you want to stop a bad guy, you are gonna have to go bigger. Over penetration will be an issue though as there is no perfect round for your scenario.

Might want to do some testing on some frangible buckshot if you can find it. Until then, my recommendation would be #4 buck.

For some laughs, check this stuff out LINK

Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

I'm using a 20 gauge.


I guess I could drop down to Buck number 4.



The individual pellets don't care what gauge shotgun they were fired from.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:27 pm to
Get a sword
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:46 pm to
1 buck
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33866 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 9:09 pm to
I live in an apartment as well. I said to hell with it and got slugs.
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Here's an interesting concept as of late (frangible shot slugs).

I haven't tried it personally, but may have merit in an apartment situation.

LINK (blasts a hole through a hog's head)

and

LINK (begins to disintegrate when passing through drywall?


That's cool as hell.
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:32 pm to
0000 buck


Not really

00
Posted by PvilleP
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:47 pm to
Best article I've seen on HD shotgun ammo selection

AR15.com

quote:

The only shotgun ammunition that will consistently reach the FBI minimum of 12 inches penetration is buckshot or slugs.

quote:

No birdshot load will reach the required penetration to reach vital organs or the central nervous system. Birdshot makes shallow and gruesome wounds, but it has been shown to be a very poor Stopper.

This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:58 pm to
There aew some really good videos on YouTube. I have concluded that #6 or even # 7 lead 2 3/4" 12 ga or #2 steel 3" 12 ga is sufficient at nl room distances is sufficient through clothing and reduces the chance of overpenetration injuries in adjacent rooms.

Buckshot will simply go through clothed person and wall behind them with enough energy to harm others. Certainly would be effective but collateral damage is concerning.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:00 pm to
There aew some really good videos on YouTube. I have concluded that #6 or even # 7 lead 2 3/4" 12 ga or #2 steel 3" 12 ga is sufficient at nl room distances is sufficient through clothing and reduces the chance of overpenetration injuries in adjacent rooms.

Buckshot will simply go through clothed person and wall behind them with enough energy to harm others. Certainly would be effective but collateral damage is concerning.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11878 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

Paging bapple.


To the rescue!

Birdshot for HD
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:34 am to
When I travel, I leave Mrs Cove the BPS, loaded with whatever I have left over from duck/goose season. I think I've got her fixed up with some 3" Hevi Shot in BBB right now. If she stays calm and hits like she usually does, I figure it will make him hold still. Fnny, because she is 4'12" tall and 100lbs soaking wet, but she can shoot that BPS as well as I can when she wants to.

If I had an HD shotgun, I would likely alternate 00 Buckshot and slugs.
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