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re: What do y'all know about drilling for water...
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:18 pm to Salmon
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:18 pm to Salmon
Hijack: Salmon, I have two old wells on my deer lease that were shutdown when they ran city water down that road years ago. How much of a hassle would it be to get them back up and running?
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:18 pm to 4X4DEMON
Definitely. I think I am SMART enough to cover all my bases and get it rolling, in terms of logistics. Where the real gamble comes in is being able to steal business enough business from these good ole boys that have already SOME sort of connection or relationship with whoever they have contracted.
It reflects poorly on the person needing the well if they "go with another guy" than the one their friend or family member set them up with... it appears most of this business travels by word of mouth.
It reflects poorly on the person needing the well if they "go with another guy" than the one their friend or family member set them up with... it appears most of this business travels by word of mouth.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:19 pm to Salmon
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as someone how as overseen hundreds of groundwater wells drilled, a good driller is a very rare thing. And you will never make much money drilling wells for the general public. The money comes from O&G field or environmental monitoring. These companies tend to require safety training, certain certificates, etc.
If it is just something you are looking to do for a side job to drill a few residential wells, maybe it could work, but I would think the upkeep for the rig and insurance wouldn't allow for much of a profit
this is the type of information i was hoping to avoid hearing... thx for the heads up. i'll check into that part specifically.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:23 pm to 4X4DEMON
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How much of a hassle would it be to get them back up and running?
depends on the condition of the well. If it is silted up or the casing is fricked up, you will have to over drill them. If the condition is good, then all you really need to do is purge the well a few times to get the water flowing again.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:26 pm to Salmon
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Salmon
Where do you go for a steady paycheck WHILE doing some diligent learning so you can be educated enough to run a rig like this and be able to obtain the licensing?
This post was edited on 2/8/13 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:28 pm to Salmon
One of them is the old time drop a bucket down time that was capped and I have no idea what kind of condition its in. The other is located in a well house and has a visible water level. I have no idea what could be floating down there though.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:28 pm to m2pro
sorry, can't really help you there
I just hire and oversee the drillers and I know what my company and our clients are looking for when we hire a driller
I just hire and oversee the drillers and I know what my company and our clients are looking for when we hire a driller
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:30 pm to Salmon
10-4, well you've helped a lot so far.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:32 pm to 4X4DEMON
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The other is located in a well house and has a visible water level. I have no idea what could be floating down there though.
just purge water till it runs clear
Posted on 2/8/13 at 3:19 pm to m2pro
Manmade ponds here aren't from wells but rom collection of runoff in lowlying areas in some highly impermeable substrate to where water can't escape as fast as it gets filled. Ponds can also be built to catch runoff in other areas that aren't as flat-lying as this part of LA. This would be the cheaper and more realisitic route.
I took a class on aquatic ecology that dealt heavily with pond management. There is some good FREE literature out there put out by Auburn and LSU on pond management including building of the pond.
I took a class on aquatic ecology that dealt heavily with pond management. There is some good FREE literature out there put out by Auburn and LSU on pond management including building of the pond.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 3:35 pm to m2pro
I have a good friend in NWLA who has done this for 20+ years. He is very busy, and makes a good living. Key is he has all older equipment that is paid for and he can work on it. Drilling truck, pump truck with large tank. He drills all by himself. He is slow, but he has great knowledge of the area water systems. For example, he knew that on my side of the lake where I live, you can get good water at 140ft. But on the other side of the lake, you will have to much iron in the water to use it for irrigation. It will stain concrete, brick, and even trees. He has learned what depth is best in all the areas around here, from years of experience.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 4:00 pm to nogoodjr
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I have a good friend in NWLA who has done this for 20+ years. He is very busy, and makes a good living
Thats very rare in NWLA....So much of the underground water is salt water over there.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 6:33 pm to m2pro
I'm in the environmental field and deal with drillers alot. You can make good money if your going the environmental route. There is blueprints out there to hook a rig up from an atv to a tractor to anything you could think of. Only thing ab the environmental side is you have to be licensed for DEQ to validate your well. Best of luck
Posted on 2/8/13 at 7:25 pm to m2pro
it is a bit more complicated than just driving around with a truck mounted auger rig. Depends on several things, subsurface soil conditions, depth to water, confined or unconfined aquifers, depleted water tables, and so on and on....
Generally a larger version of a CME or similar drill rig will run (used, very used) around 30 - 40K. A small auger unit that can actually go on a PU about F350/450 will be in the 10-15K range. Gotta look for arse-end with these units so you aren't lifting the entire rig off the ground when drilling thick clays.
Most of the outfits I work with (geologist in Co) usually opt for a smaller coring type setup that can get even more expensive.
what else?
Generally a larger version of a CME or similar drill rig will run (used, very used) around 30 - 40K. A small auger unit that can actually go on a PU about F350/450 will be in the 10-15K range. Gotta look for arse-end with these units so you aren't lifting the entire rig off the ground when drilling thick clays.
Most of the outfits I work with (geologist in Co) usually opt for a smaller coring type setup that can get even more expensive.
what else?
Posted on 2/8/13 at 7:29 pm to Salmon
He could rent a compressor and jet them, that is if the screen interval is not compromised.
Borrow a water level probe, OR, make a "plopper" from an old tape with a bolt duct taped to the end to see if there is a silt issue.
Many things can go wrong trying to rehab old wells, and overdrilling will cost out the arse.
Borrow a water level probe, OR, make a "plopper" from an old tape with a bolt duct taped to the end to see if there is a silt issue.
Many things can go wrong trying to rehab old wells, and overdrilling will cost out the arse.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 7:45 pm to m2pro
You might want to think about drilling wells for closed loop geothermal applications.
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