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What Are the Board's Thoughts Regarding .38, .380, and 9mm for Carry?

Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:28 am
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:28 am
I like the S&W compact revolvers and Bersa Thunder semi. Most seem to want to discount anything other than the 9mm for a primary carry, though.

How much more do .38 and .380 ammo run than 9mm during non-panic times?
Posted by Cold Pizza
Member since Sep 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:35 am to
Price shouldn't be a consideration for carry ammo. The bigger the round, the bigger the gun, the harder to carry. Carry the biggest pistol you can handle.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 11:51 am
Posted by SenseiBuddy
Ascension Parish
Member since Oct 2005
4443 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:36 am to
The object of carrying a gun for defense is to have the ability to shoot, hit and stop a bad guy. By doing so you want to have lots of shots at your disposal. Each shot can make a hole in the attacker. The bigger the hole the better.

Pick a caliber that finds the perfect balance of high capacity and can bore large holes.
All the while it is reliable and you can shoot it well.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 11:39 am
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14887 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:36 am to
I've got a .38 and a small 9mm. .38 ammo is a little more for sure. +P .38 rounds are very close to 9mm in effectiveness and ballistics.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:38 am to
40+/- /= 9mm>38+p>38>380 for defense IMHO

Bersa are cheap guns well known for slide bite especially on larger hands.

The revolvers are wider and harder to conceal due to this but if I was going to CC a revolver I would use 357 mag.

Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:57 am to
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I was going to CC a revolver I would use 357 mag.


I tell this exact same thing to people. Even if it bucks like crazy when I pull the trigger, the guy on the receiving end is gonna feel it more than I am. And if it recoils too much, I'll just pop some 38 in there.

I would also stick with some reputable expanding defense ammo:

Speer Gold Dot
Corbon DPX
Federal Hydrashok
Hornady Critical Defense
Remington Golden Saber
Winchester PDX1 (very similar to Ranger T)

There are a few others but these are the ones I trust the most.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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89481 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

like the S&W compact revolvers and Bersa Thunder semi. Most seem to want to discount anything other than the 9mm for a primary carry, though.

How much more do .38 and .380 ammo run than 9mm during non-panic times?


There are just so many more options in 9mm (and .40 S&W now), in both platforms and cartridge offerings by the major manufacturers. I'm not even a 9mm guy, really, but I would choose 9mm over .38 special or .380. Even if a revolver is selected, I believe that, only under rare circumstances will you not be able to find one chambered in .357, and then carry either a .38 +P or light .357 round.

It's about carrying a platform with the most effective round as practicable.

As an example, I would not feel undergunned with a Glock 26 or M&P Shield. Although it remains my favorite gun to shoot, I would feel undergunned with a .380 Walther PPK.

If you cannot handle/are not comfortable with full power 9mm (or .40 S&W), by all means carry a .380 (or even better, a Seecamp LW in .32 ACP, sweet, sweet gun), but do so consciously and out of necessity.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 12:01 pm
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:11 pm to
ANY caliber is better than carrying a stick...that being said,I carry a .45. :-)
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:15 pm to
I carry a S&W 642 as often as I do my .40. It's conveinant and will do the job if you practice and can shoot accurate.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

ANY caliber is better than carrying a stick...that being said,I carry a .45. :-)
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:18 pm to
.45 ACP fo life
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:19 pm to
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Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:33 pm to
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WildTchoupitoulas


Man, Buffalo Bore makes some impressive stuff. Thanks for the link!
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:00 pm to
I think the small 9's are pretty sweet for carry.

A small frame .38 doesn't take u much space, until you add the grip you need for it (it's a significant difference).

.380 is probably the thinnest you can get. It's definitely a compromise.

.357 doesn't belong in this conversation. The size of a .357 revolver puts it against regular 9's, .40's, and .45's.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:06 pm to
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:06 pm to
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.357 doesn't belong in this conversation. The size of a .357 revolver puts it against regular 9's, .40's, and .45's.


Ruger makes 2 different .357s - LCR and SP101 that are comparably sized (a little thick, but not significantly different than J-frames, they're 5-shot small frame revolvers) to .380 and CCW-oriented 9mm pistols.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 1:18 pm
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:13 pm to
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:17 pm to
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"The .357 Magnum carries the honor of being #1 with one shot stops of two-legged threats."


The Federal 357B round, in particular, continues to reign supreme (I did not read your link).

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:21 pm to
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I will say this, .357 out of anything shorter than 4" is wasting a lot of propellent which turns into flash temporarily blinding the shooter. 6" is optimum.


I find that true of .38 cartridges as well. Corbon makes a nice 110-grain, full power .357 that, while no means pleasant, is much more manageable out of a snub nose - although my garrison commander's choice of sidearm is somewhat unique - a CQB 627 with 8 shots, and 2 3/4" bbl - the biggest g-ddamn snubby you ever saw.
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