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Western ranches/outfitters info, Crop Consultants and other AG guys

Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:56 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19600 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:56 pm
So with the recent change in fortunes and the price of oil going straight to hell I went from an over abundance of opportunities to one and the chances of that one getting pulled increases with each day. So I am now evaluating 2nd and 3rd industry options and plans in case this downturn sticks around for awhile. I am suppose to start in April but if they completely pull it, already moved it back once, I should hopefully know by mid to late Feb. First on the list is to head out west, Mont-WYO, to work on a ranch or with an outfitter. Do that for the spring and summer and head back when it starts getting colder than witched tit. Also wanting to look into the Ag business, particularly crop consultants. I know these guys can make decent $ and I have been told you can do it with just a certification.

Any info or help on either subjects are greatly appreciated. I have a couple of ranches I am going to check with.
Posted by 2indapink
Member since Mar 2012
541 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:04 pm to
You have to know ALOT about farming, ag practices, farming equipment and the area environment to be an ag consultant.

Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:25 pm to
There is a school in Colorado I looked into to become a guide/outfitter. I'm sure that would be helpful to get in on a ranch if not from the area and a lifetime of experience doing that.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:47 pm to
Tell me why I would hire you as a consultant for my farm

I am legitimately asking you. Not joking
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19600 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:55 pm to
Just got the phone call, I'm hauling arse westmas soon as I can load the truck, Lil lady is pissed BC just got back from a week of hunting. Will pick this back up when I get back in town. JB, u around laff right now?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:55 pm to
BR
Posted by consumptive_use
Lost Springs, WY
Member since Dec 2012
154 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:11 pm to
I saw you got the position: congrats.

I've worked out west a good bit, but never with a ranch/outfitter. If you have any details, I may be able to help.
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:38 pm to
What in the heck just happened?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43553 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:40 pm to
do you have any experience with horses? you can go to farrier school. a decent farrier that can show up on time can make pretty good bank. alot of under the table cash also.

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U.S. farrier salaries In general, working on race and show horses pays more than working on pleasure horses. Standard 8-hour days in urban/rural environments can yield much less than $100,000 year, whereas working on race or show horses can get you much more than $100,000 plus per year. In some cases the wage gap can be as great as $40,000 for pleasure horses to $200,000 or more for race and show horses.An American Farriers Journal survey in 2012 found that the average annual salary for full-time farriers in the U.S. was reported to be $92,623 per year and for part-timers, $21,153. This amount is an average and varies according to experience level, training, etc. A 2010 survey found that gross income for both full-time and part-time farriers averaged $73,108, a 16 percent increase from 2008, which backs up the figures from the previous survey when averaging out both full-time and part-time salaries.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 9:43 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:53 pm to
Gotta know the right people to be in the horse biness
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15169 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:59 pm to
Lil lady? She finally threw a title on you, I see
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:03 pm to
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Tell me why I would hire you as a consultant for my farm I am legitimately asking you. Not joking


Cause I won't steal, don't use drugs, give 110% and according to my momma I have charisma but I think that's the equivalent to saying an ugly girl has a "great personality".
Posted by Rover Range
Member since Jun 2014
2768 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:36 pm to
I have a cousin that was a crop consultant, and I worked for him a few summers. They did well, but they were deeply entrenched in the farming community from birth. It was a hot, long day summer job, but I was well compensated. Don't know if you mean crop or a consultant.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:21 am to
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Gotta know the right people to be in the horse biness



Horse shite. Get certified, be good at your trade, show up when you say you will, and don't take all day putting on a set of shoes. I can guarantee you you would make money around WBR, PC, EBR, Asc. as a farrier if you did the above. There are lots of horse shoers in this area, and yet 95% of my wife's clients ask her for a new farrier at least twice a year. Track work might require connections, as would the show world, but you'd make a good living off of back yard horses in this area as a farrier.
Posted by dpark
Northeast LA
Member since Feb 2011
941 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:48 am to
To be a louisiana crop consultant you will have to log a certain amount of hours in each field of expertise you want to consult. You will need to take both the CCA exam and the Louisiana exam. Both are tough and I think they only give them twice a year. Also the Ag industry isn't the best right now due to the swing in these commodity prices. Growers are cutting back and being more frugal with their resources.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50123 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:08 am to
I wouldn't expect a ranch hand or outfitter's helper to make bank. Get on with a pipeline job if you want to go out West, OP.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:40 am to
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Cause I won't steal, don't use drugs, give 110% and according to my momma I have charisma but I think that's the equivalent to saying an ugly girl has a "great personality".

That's your best post ever, And a fine sig quote right there, just waiting to happen. If that came from a movie or something after the hunt for red october, I missed it.?.
I'd grab it, but I'm partial to Robert E. Lee quotes and I'm havin' a hard time thinking ol Bobby Lee would be caught deader sayin' that.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:53 am to
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. If that came from a movie or something after the hunt for red october, I missed it.?.


Nope, I just make sure I put that on all my resumes
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43553 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Posted by tigerinthebueche
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Gotta know the right people to be in the horse biness



Horse shite. Get certified, be good at your trade, show up when you say you will, and don't take all day putting on a set of shoes. I can guarantee you you would make money around WBR, PC, EBR, Asc. as a farrier if you did the above. There are lots of horse shoers in this area, and yet 95% of my wife's clients ask her for a new farrier at least twice a year. Track work might require connections, as would the show world, but you'd make a good living off of back yard horses in this area as a farrier.



Yep. My farrier seems to be doing pretty good. Alot if times he is off by noon and has already done 8-10 horses. 50-75 a pop adds up quick.
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:35 pm to
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show up when you say you will


Very few can hit this mark.

If you do good work, word gets around. Sore up a couple performance horse's feet and you'll be hard pressed to keep a client base.
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