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Trying to learn to read conditions for fishing

Posted on 5/26/15 at 7:16 pm
Posted by ClydeFrog
Kenya
Member since Jul 2012
3261 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 7:16 pm
Some people can look at weather conditions and know if they will be able to catch trout in the surf or not and I want to learn how to do that.

This is the website I use. I think wind direction, wind speed, wave direction, and wave height are the most important factors but I don't know when the conditions are ideal to make the clean water trout like.

Also, how does pressure and temperature factor in? Is a full moon the night before actually bad for fishing because it means the fish have been feeding all night?
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39512 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 7:39 pm to
It depends on location, but heres my synopsis

South winds will bring in clean salty water from the GOM
North winds usually flush the marsh/bays with muddy water

Ideal beach fishing to me would be about a 5-10mph S wind after a few days of calm and predictable (lol) weather.

As far as pressure goes, low pressure fronts usually bring good fishing. Sure those sunny days are nice out, but fishing is much better on the flip side IMO.

Have heard mixed things about moon phases, so I'll leave that to someone else.
Posted by ClydeFrog
Kenya
Member since Jul 2012
3261 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:54 pm to
Good info, thanks.
Posted by FrenchJoe
H 861
Member since Aug 2006
1031 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:28 pm to
T.O.W.=Time on Water. Keep a notebook divided into the 12 months. Log your trips, conditions and results.

I sure do like to fish those low pressure systems approaching from the west.
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:31 pm to
Awhile back you post a screen shot of a offshore forecast from NOAA. Gov.... How do you get to that?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56051 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

I sure do like to fish those low pressure systems approaching from the west.


yep...I look for a falling barometer with whatever wind is right to keep clear water where I want to fish...
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28341 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:06 am to
quote:

Ideal beach fishing to me would be about a 5-10mph S wind after a few days of calm and predictable (lol) weather.


Honestly I rather a slight northerly breeze when fishing the beach since it will keep the surf area cleaner, and you will be casting with the wind. When it blows from the south I like to fish the back sides of the islands.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17851 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:39 am to
I like cloudy days, slight south wind and a foot plus of tide movement.

Not that it matters because the only condition That really matters is the wife index. If its all clear im going fishing. If there is upper level distubance, im not going.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22687 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 6:03 am to
How do you fish a beach with a northerly wind and throw with it? You surf fishing?
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5761 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:11 am to
For fishing the surf/beaches I like to have very little wind blowing twoards the beach. Anything over 10mph and normally it will dirty the water at the beach and make the trout bite not so good. Like someone else said a north wind I head for the beaches as the beach will be a lee shore and you know it should be calm.

This late in the year I don't worry too much about salt water being pushed into the beaches it should already be there as the beaches are on the outside in most instances. Falling barometer/no high pressure is good but again that's most of the time during the summer.

Anything over about 12mph out of the south the beaches become almost unfishable and you need to look elsewhere to fish. Hope that helps a little.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39512 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:14 am to
yeah idk
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39512 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:24 am to
quote:

Awhile back you post a screen shot of a offshore forecast from NOAA. Gov.... How do you get to that?



here ya go I first got to it through the LUMCON site. Go to quick links at the bottom and click on weather----then marine forecast will bring you to the NOAA site.
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4185 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:29 am to
quote:

PapaPogey


this is good info source (not that i'm really happy with the info on it now )
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39512 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:48 am to
Just like every other report, it's wrong 50% of the time.
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:53 am to
Thanks
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7983 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:10 am to
I've always found better fishing when the barometric pressure is dropping.

Also (this is for Big Lake)...I found fishing better when there's a tide moving. In one spot in particular, we'd fish one side of a washout for a falling tide and swap over to the other side for a rising tide. It was odd, but productive.

What was said about the winds is totally true as well. Good South winds brought a higher salinity and nicer trout into Big Lake. North winds SUCKED hard.

Man I sure miss my back yard.
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15169 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:23 am to
I like winds around 5mph because I hate wind the wind is howling. It muddies up the water and makes everything a pita. That being said, when there's no wind, the horse flies and gnats are ready to feast.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:25 am to
i just do fishing like hunting.. when i have free time i go.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10705 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:06 am to
Some people can look at weather conditions and know if they will be able to catch trout in the surf or not and I want to learn how to do that.

This is the website I use. I think wind direction, wind speed, wave direction, and wave height are the most important factors but I don't know when the conditions are ideal to make the clean water trout like.

Also, how does pressure and temperature factor in? Is a full moon the night before actually bad for fishing because it means the fish have been feeding all night?
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Wind Direction
It's important in that if there is a river or pass going into the gulf, that the wind is not pushing that dirty water your way.
For example, if your fishing on the east side of a pass or river, you don't want a southwest wind blowing that dirty water your way. Especially if it has blown for a few days in that same direction.

Tides
By the old shrimping rule, the 3 days before and 3 days after the full moon are the best days to shrimp or fish. the shrimp are moving at those times, thus, if shrimp are in the water, the trout will be too.
As the moon gets full, the tides get stronger.
As an example of a range.

0.4, 0.7, 0.9, 1.1, 1.3, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5, 1.3, 1.1, 0.8, 0.4

So the full moon tide range is 1.5, so the 3 days before that (0.9 - 1.3) and after (1.3 - 0.8) will be your best days.

Also, any tide over 1.4 or such will start to dirty the water up, just too strong.

Not saying you can't catch outside of these days, but I've learned quite a few lessons over many a years, shrimping and fishing, using this as a guide.

This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 9:08 am
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:13 am to
quote:

That really matters is the wife index. If its all clear im going fishing. If there is upper level distubance, im not going.


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