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Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:49 am to
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:49 am to
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Shitty gas mileage is the biggest complaint against the Tundra.


That and the cheap, shitty interior
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:06 am to
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If you go Ford, get the V8


Truth. I just traded my 2013 ecoboost in at 74K miles because the timing chain was already stretched. Its a common problem
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 9:07 am
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6854 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:15 am to
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Isn't there a substantial price difference between compatible model Ford vs yota?
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Eta- just looking at cars.com, yota is about 8k more.




I just bought a new Tundra for $4k less than the comparable Ford.

I've put 7k miles on it, and get between 16.2 and 16.7 mpg.

I also don't have to worry about my tailgate latch, window motor, interior lights, and the glove compartment screws going out like they will on a Ford.
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:20 am to
F150 all the way. The eco boost paired w the alum body drives like a fricking sports car. Yota way heavier and more sluggish in traffic. Both great trucks but Ford has way more advantages
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35456 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:22 am to
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drives like a fricking sports car



Not what most truck drivers are looking for
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 9:31 am
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6854 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:28 am to
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Ford has way more advantages



The Ford has a nicer interior, gets better gas mileage, and does better in the mud. Toyota>Ford on everything else.

Oh, and the Toyota will outlast the payments.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:37 am to
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That and the cheap, shitty interior


While I agree that the Ford interior looks nicer, it could be said that it is the one that is cheap. The Toyota isn't going to have loose, rattling pieces in 2 or 3 years of use.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by Recovered
Member since May 2016
577 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:46 am to
And gets 11 mpg if you put some plants from Home Depot in the bed.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119430 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:52 am to
I bought a 2016 F150 5.0 XLT in February. I've had no trouble with it after an initial hose was leaking and I got that fixed. I do like it, but I'm not a big fan of the lack of abilities of the dash screen, and the heat/air controls are in an awkward place. Other than that it is fine.
Huge discounts on domestic trucks, not as much on Toyotas.

I would have bought a Tundra, would have been my first choice, but it was about $5-7K higher for an equivalently equipped vehicle (as much as possible) and I didn't want to spend that much money.
You get more options with the Ford for sure. Not always sure that is a good thing.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30108 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:54 am to
no matter what they "claim" you are going to average 13mpg with a tundra but it has more pulling torque to the ground then a ford in real life (not talking about the "claims" on the stickers)

if you plan to keep it 10-15 years I like the ford aluminum bodies better, if your only thinking 5-10 years then its a coin flip based on if you care how much it costs to keep filling it up
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6854 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:12 am to
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no matter what they "claim" you are going to average 13mpg with a tundra


I've gotten over 15 on every tank I've put through mine in the first 7k miles on it, with the exception of the one time I towed a trailer with a load. Got 13.5 that tank. Still averaged over 16 mpg since I got it in October.

Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13397 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:12 am to
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it has more pulling torque to the ground then a ford in real life (not talking about the "claims" on the stickers)


Uh, not so sure about this. Have any proof besides blind bias? Maybe V8 vs V8, but an Ecoboost equipped F150 100% has more usable/low-end torque than the Tundra. For the Tundra to have more "pulling torque to the ground" than an Ecoboost F150, you're assuming F150s have like 20-25%+ driveline loss which I know isn't possible.

ETA: New 3.5 Ecoboost makes 470 lb-ft of torque at or under 3500 rpm. You'd have to assume around 31% driveline loss to have less torque to the wheels vs. a Tundra. Most vehicles have around 18% driveline loss
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2097 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:13 am to
quote:

no matter what they "claim" you are going to average 13mpg


I'm at 20K miles on my Tundra. Current average is 15.6. I tow a boat most weekends too.

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keep


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10-15 years


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I like the ford


Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7385 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:16 am to
quote:

no matter what they "claim" you are going to average 13mpg with a tundra but it has more pulling torque to the ground then a ford in real life (not talking about the "claims" on the stickers) 

if you plan to keep it 10-15 years I like the ford aluminum bodies better, if your only thinking 5-10 years then its a coin flip based on if you care how much it costs to keep filling it up


So much wrong in one post.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18349 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:25 am to
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Toyota Tundra TRD Pro


I have had both and my vote goes to the Tundra. I had a 2013 F150 FX4 with the ecoboost. I loved the ecoboost engine but had issues with the slip yoke that Ford refused to cover on the warranty. Also the en tune system > Ford mysnc.


quote:

no matter what they "claim" you are going to average 13mpg

Ford FX4 Ecoboost I averaged about 16.5 MPG Front level with 33" tires
Tundra 4x4 5.7 Front level with 33" tires AVG 15.5 MPG

I did get much better when towing in the F150 than the Tundra but I don't haul alot so not really a big deal.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7385 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:31 am to
I hate the entune fwiw. In my last tundra I had an aftermarket nav from Sony, it was lightyears ahead of entune.
Posted by biggsc
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Member since Mar 2009
34209 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:32 am to
Go test drive them first
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:34 am to
quote:

The Toyota isn't going to have loose, rattling pieces in 2 or 3 years of use.


I'm on year 5 of a 2011 F150 with 160k miles. No rattles.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14016 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:44 am to
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the timing chain was already stretched. Its a common problem
Because people drive them like sports cars?
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:49 am to
Toyota. There is value is confidence it will crank everytime. I recently traded a Land cruiser for a new Tundra. Could not be happier.
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