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re: This story should be titled LDWTF!
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:30 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:30 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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TheDrunkenTigah
How do you justify their actions and not call it stealing? It's almost as if you're perfectly ok with the way the funding was handled.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:35 am to Jester
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I'm certainly not as pre-slanted by political associations.
I don't have any political associations when it comes to this, I've criticized Jindal just as much as I have JBE on the issues of LDWF and coastal restoration. You're spinning this just as hard as anyone.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:48 am to Barf
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How do you justify their actions and not call it stealing? It's almost as if you're perfectly ok with the way the funding was handled.
I never once said someone caught stealing shouldn't be punished, and that's a strawman. I read the full report and I saw a lot of dumb purchases, but nothing criminal, and the auditor agrees with me. Everything they bought is stuff LDWF could presumably use, and the auditor takes issue with how it was documented more than the fact that it was bought.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:57 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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I read the full report and I saw a lot of dumb purchases, but nothing criminal, and the auditor agrees with me.
The auditor agrees with you?
This is directly from the audit report you claimed to have read, yet you think this is not stealing? If it is not stealing, then what would you call it?
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$54,000 in purchases by a Venice fish sampling team for equipment that is no longer in LDWF’s possession as well as two missing pistols, a missing rifle and a missing shotgun.
Your words, not mine
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Everything they bought is stuff LDWF could presumably use
So they can use this plane they bought with federal grant money?
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LDWF used federal grant funds totaling $1.8 million to purchase a used aircraft without a proper inspection and did not exercise reasonable due diligence in using the aircraft. As a result, damages to the aircraft noted after the purchase could cost the state up to $580,600 in repairs.
I ask again, If this this is not stealing, how do you explain it away?
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$188,805 in payments for sponsorship agreements, some of which may have been a violation of the Louisiana Constitution as a donation of public funds. In addition, LDWF state credit card users artificially divided 101 payments totaling $157,725 to seven vendors without obtaining prior approval from the Division of Administration.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:07 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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I read the full report and I saw a lot of dumb purchases, but nothing criminal, and the auditor agrees with me
So, OJ didn't murder Nicole.... That's tantamount to what you are saying. Insufficient evidence is not proof of innocence. Lost guns are not a crime. However, someone taking those guns IS a crime. That team is damn efficient at losing guns, apparently.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:31 pm to Jester
This shite is hilarious
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LDWF management and other employees did not comply with state law by improperly operating four unmanned aircraft systems (drones) with a total original acquisition cost of $7,799.
? The Office of Fisheries purchased three drones for $5,000 in August 2014 at the direction of Mark Schexnayder, deputy undersecretary, with approval from Mr. Pausina. Mr. Schexnayder stated that within a week after the purchase, LDWF received a verbal directive from the Office of the Governor prohibiting the use of drones by state agencies. Two of these drones (total acquisition cost of $3,333) were damaged after receipt of the Governor’s directive.
Mr. Schexnayder stated that although he was aware of the Governor’s directive he, Mr. Pausina, and a public information director used the drones for “unofficial” state business and brought the drones home to practice flying a “half-dozen” times. Mr. Pausina and the public information director confirmed the use of these drones at their homes. Memory cards from the drones contained videos and pictures of Mr. Schexnayder and Mr. Pausina operating the drones at their personal residences in the presence of their families.
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The Office of Wildlife purchased an additional drone for $2,799 in November 2014 for use at the Rockefeller Wildlife Refuge; however, the drone was lost in the marsh at the Refuge. The purchaser claimed he was never made aware of the Governor’s directive. However, other LDWF employees, including an attorney and the Enforcement Division colonel, confirmed they were aware of the Governor’s directive but could not provide evidence that the directive was communicated appropriately to all LDWF employees.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:36 pm to Barf
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LDWF received a verbal directive from the Office of the Governor prohibiting the use of drones by state agencies.
Why can't they use drones?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:39 pm to pointdog33
You have to pass a course in order to fly one
And I don't see anything wrong with takin a drone home to practice with
And I don't see anything wrong with takin a drone home to practice with
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:41 pm to Ron Cheramie
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And I don't see anything wrong with takin a drone home to practice with
Even after you have been told you can not fly one.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:47 pm to Barf
You have to practice ahead of time. Did you take the driving test without ever driving first. Even though you weren't supposed to be driving?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:47 pm to Barf
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This shite is hilarious
The drone issue sums it up pretty well, if you don't have a pitchfork in your hand. They bought the drones to do flyovers for oil sheen, Jindal decided he didn't want state agencies to be flying drones after it was reported they bought them so they didn't. They played around with them, because its a damn drone. Would you have preferred they locked them in a warehouse for 20 years? Like I said, dumb, but I'm not seeing anything criminal.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:51 pm to Jester
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So, OJ didn't murder Nicole.... That's tantamount to what you are saying. Insufficient evidence is not proof of innocence. Lost guns are not a crime. However, someone taking those guns IS a crime. That team is damn efficient at losing guns, apparently.
What were you saying about spin? This isn't a murder case.
I haven't defended stuff walking off, and I think that should be pursued, but if you read the report the guns were either stolen, destroyed, or returned and the credit given back to the department just wasn't labeled as such. I just don't think this stuff jumps off the page as "felony theft" like you seem to be asserting. Seems more like run of the mill incompetence.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:58 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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They played around with them, because its a damn drone. Would you have preferred they locked them in a warehouse for 20 years? Like I said, dumb, but I'm not seeing anything criminal.
I'm not sure what world you live in where employees are allowed to take company property home and play around with it, after being told not to, simply because it's not currently being used.
You sound like that friend that everyone has who comes over to your house and wants to borrow shite because "you're not even using it."
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:06 pm to Barf
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So they can use this plane they bought with federal grant money?
You can't think of anything LDWF could use a plane for after an oil spill? Not a single thing? Several of my friends were paid hundreds of dollars a day to ride around in boats looking for oil sheen.
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I ask again, If this this is not stealing, how do you explain it away?
Looks like political tit for tat to me. Like I said, the auditor seemed much more pissed about the bookkeeping aspects rather than the actual purchases. They only go so far as to say some of the sponsorship stuff may have violated state law, but seem to be indicating it's normal for the agency to sponsor certain events. Again, you want to see malicious intent so that's what you're seeing.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:18 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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You can't think of anything LDWF could use a plane for after an oil spill? Not a single thing? Several of my friends were paid hundreds of dollars a day to ride around in boats looking for oil sheen
You can't think of anything wrong with them operating an aircraft in violation of FAA regulations? I guess our definitions of personal accountability are completely different.
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FAA regulations, FAR Part 91, Section 409 provides that no one may operate an aircraft unless it has undergone a mechanical inspection within the preceding 12 months. As noted above, LDWF purchased the aircraft on September 3, 2015, with only 27 days remaining until its next mandated inspection was due. Though LDWF did not obtain the mandated inspection, it continued to operate the aircraft until December 17, including carrying passengers, in violation of FAA regulations
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:21 pm to Barf
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I'm not sure what world you live in where employees are allowed to take company property home and play around with it, after being told not to, simply because it's not currently being used.
I think it's unprofessional, and they should be reprimanded, but I hardly see that as criminal. The governor rendered them useless, after they were paid for. In the audit it says they didn't take them home for good, just tried to learn to fly them on their own time in case they were ever allowed to use them.
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You sound like that friend that everyone has who comes over to your house and wants to borrow shite because "you're not even using it."
That hurts... but if you got a skiff you're not using...
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:34 pm to Barf
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LDWF received a verbal directive from the Office of the Governor prohibiting the use of drones by state agencies. Two of these drones (total acquisition cost of $3,333) were damaged after receipt of the Governor’s directive.
Not only did they take the drones home after they were instructed not to use them they also damaged them lol. Idk if anyone should get fired or go to jail but it bothers me that Pausina and others wasted money no matter whose money it was (the state or BP). Not only did they waste money thousand of dollars of fishing equipment and guns just walks off and no one gets in trouble that's just shady.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:27 pm to cdogwinn
I can't believe they finally uncovered the drone story.
I still want to know why they haven't released anything about the website deals, unless I missed it.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 5:51 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Melancon has hinted at it multiple times that JBE has his eye on LDWF's budget. JBE just doesn't see LDWF as a priority, and wants to spend that money on state hospital contracts and in failing public schools.
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re: Embattled Charlie Melancon says Gov. Edwards supports his red snapper strategyPosted on 9/16/16 at 5:28 pm to U4ic get ready for the fund raiding to begin...
and again....get ready for the fund raiding to begin...
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:30 pm to Jester
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Then where is all of that missing equipment? You don't think that found it's way into some private hands?
It's probably in Newmans possession, just like the lodge he was using for charters. We all knew that deal was gonna be the downfall of the agency. It was too blatant of a boondoggle. More corrupt than a Clinton scandal.
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