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re: State Lawmaker wants to legislate Cajun Navy...
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:04 pm to choupiquesushi
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:04 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:Oh good grief
we can disagree just know that if me or mine come to fetch you we aren't going to drown you during egress....
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:04 pm to Tigerpaw123
quote:Did anyone drown after rescue due to a lack of PFD?
with passengers of unknown capabilities without PFD's
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:07 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:
Don't freak out baws... it's a necessary evil IMO
No one will waste their time taking those classes or getting permits. So if this law is passed, the next time a big flood happens ppl will die because of it. There's nothing necessary about ppl dying.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:10 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Did anyone drown after rescue due to a lack of PFD?
Did anyone die this morning in a car wreck because they did not have their seat belt on? but are you going to put yours on this afternoon on your way home?
Having a life jacket in a boat for every passenger is a minimum of a safety standard and should not be overlooked in this situation
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:16 pm to Tigerpaw123
quote:Really?
Did anyone die this morning in a car wreck because they did not have their seat belt on? but are you going to put yours on this afternoon on your way home?
quote:I don't agree.
Having a life jacket in a boat for every passenger is a minimum of a safety standard and should not be overlooked in this situation
I also don't care if they have a fire extinguisher.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:40 pm to Tigerpaw123
quote:
Having a life jacket in a boat for every passenger is a minimum of a safety standard and should not be overlooked in this situation
Good gracious.
Yo I would launch this boat and rescue some people, but I only have one life jacket. Guess I'll just go home.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:44 pm to Tigerpaw123
quote:
okay to forget every rule of gun safety in an emergency situation? or is that the time when it is most important
Depending on the emergency, that's the time when its least important. If I am in urgent need of a gun to save my or someone else life, then gun safety is much less important than it is if I'm out to the range for a day.
How are we all the same species? Sometime I don't get it.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:50 pm to uway
It floors me to see how many of you think life jackets are extreme and unnecessary. My boat normally has 3 and when we were out helping it had 6. There is no requirement for adults to wear them, only that there is one available for each passenger. I didn't rescue any children but if I had you can be damn sure I would have had them put on a life jacket.
What I witnessed out there were two types of boat operators? Those who already had 3 people in a 16-17 ft boat filming the entire thing to post on the internet and those who brought multiple boats (equipped with life jackets and radios) with single operators so that they could utilize the most amount of boat space to carry people in need of rescue.
Do I agree with the government trying to regulate this? No. Would I be happy to see some type of training available for those who want to help? Yes but it could be online, it shouldn't be a requirement, and it shouldn't be more than $10-15 a person.
What I witnessed out there were two types of boat operators? Those who already had 3 people in a 16-17 ft boat filming the entire thing to post on the internet and those who brought multiple boats (equipped with life jackets and radios) with single operators so that they could utilize the most amount of boat space to carry people in need of rescue.
Do I agree with the government trying to regulate this? No. Would I be happy to see some type of training available for those who want to help? Yes but it could be online, it shouldn't be a requirement, and it shouldn't be more than $10-15 a person.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:53 pm to stein_burgundy
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State Lawmaker wants to legislate Cajun Navy... by stein_burgundy
It floors me to see how many of you think life jackets are extreme and unnecessary. My boat normally has 3 and when we were out helping it had 6. There is no requirement for adults to wear them, only that there is one available for each passenger. I didn't rescue any children but if I had you can be damn sure I would have had them put on a life jacket.
What I witnessed out there were two types of boat operators? Those who already had 3 people in a 16-17 ft boat filming the entire thing to post on the internet and those who brought multiple boats (equipped with life jackets and radios) with single operators so that they could utilize the most amount of boat space to carry people in need of rescue
What does "emergency" mean to you?
To me it means a situation where we are taking any help we can get.
If you have to choose between a boat with life jackets and one without, you choose the life jackets obviously.
In an emergency we can't turn away the help we are getting because it's not optimal.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:53 pm to uway
quote:
Depending on the emergency, that's the time when its least important
that is the line of thinking that gets innocent people killed
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:54 pm to Tigerpaw123
quote:
that is the line of thinking that gets innocent people killed
You say stuff that doesn't make sense.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:55 pm to uway
quote:
What does "emergency" mean to you?
To me it means a situation where we are taking any help we can get.
If you have to choose between a boat with life jackets and one without, you choose the life jackets obviously.
In an emergency we can't turn away the help we are getting because it's not optimal.
and I can agree with that, I guess we disagree on definition of emergency and the vast majority of the "rescues" I saw were of convenience not emergency
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:57 pm to farad
A quote from the link in the original post. According to the state lawmaker proposing the legislation, he's mostly focused on 1. The state's liability and 2. Cost, although the article doesn't detail what costs he's referring to.
“At the end of the day, there are going to be two things that are going to be the hurdle when you approach it from the state’s standpoint,” Sen. Perry said. “Liability is going to be number one for them. They don’t want the liability of someone going out to rescue someone and then not being able to find them, and secondly, there’s a cost.”
To me it's very telling that his main concern is not necessarily the safety of the rescuers or the victims, but minimizing the liability of the state should a volunteer rescuer go around a roadblock in order to help a victim. I agree w/ others who say there's MUCH more to this effort than just requiring a volunteer rescuer to sign a liability waiver. Liability waivers don't necessarily provide protection for anyone.
“At the end of the day, there are going to be two things that are going to be the hurdle when you approach it from the state’s standpoint,” Sen. Perry said. “Liability is going to be number one for them. They don’t want the liability of someone going out to rescue someone and then not being able to find them, and secondly, there’s a cost.”
To me it's very telling that his main concern is not necessarily the safety of the rescuers or the victims, but minimizing the liability of the state should a volunteer rescuer go around a roadblock in order to help a victim. I agree w/ others who say there's MUCH more to this effort than just requiring a volunteer rescuer to sign a liability waiver. Liability waivers don't necessarily provide protection for anyone.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:58 pm to uway
I understand what you're saying but at the same time boats should have life jackets in them. People willing to take their boats to rescue others should make sure they have the necessary equipment in their boats before going.
Again that is different than someone who is in the middle of the flooding when it happens and takes their boat to get themselves and others out. What I'm referring to is people coming from somewhere else to help out. Its not too much to ask to be properly equipped.
Again that is different than someone who is in the middle of the flooding when it happens and takes their boat to get themselves and others out. What I'm referring to is people coming from somewhere else to help out. Its not too much to ask to be properly equipped.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:10 pm to stein_burgundy
And fire extinguishers.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:56 pm to stein_burgundy
quote:
What I witnessed out there were two types of boat operators? Those who already had 3 people in a 16-17 ft boat filming the entire thing to post on the internet and those who brought multiple boats (equipped with life jackets and radios) with single operators so that they could utilize the most amount of boat space to carry people in need of rescue.
This.
If any of you would've seen the Amite river on Sunday of the flood, you wouldn't think a life jacket was unnecessary. I NEVER wear a life jacket during normal boat operation (bad, I know). Mine did not come off that Sunday.
Me and Porpi saw two dudes almost put their center console into a bridge railing because they were too busy snapchatting themselves "saving lives."
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:01 pm to bluemoons
Keep the government out of it...IN THE FORM OF PERMITS
BUT there is nothing wrong with having a
Suggested Checklist & Guidelines
Maybe even a VIDEO with these guidelines
that people could watch
BUT there is nothing wrong with having a
Suggested Checklist & Guidelines
Maybe even a VIDEO with these guidelines
that people could watch
Posted on 8/31/16 at 7:24 am to choupiquesushi
What grade are you in?
What person goes out without life jackets? I don't know any.
And how do you get more life jackets when everything is flooded?
Hey Larry I only have 2 extra life jackets. Let's not rescue anyone today because butthurt pussified Americans won't understand that saving lives is more important than regulations.
What person goes out without life jackets? I don't know any.
And how do you get more life jackets when everything is flooded?
Hey Larry I only have 2 extra life jackets. Let's not rescue anyone today because butthurt pussified Americans won't understand that saving lives is more important than regulations.
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