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re: State Lawmaker wants to legislate Cajun Navy...
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:10 pm to Cadello
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:10 pm to Cadello
No dumbass what I'm saying is if you are going to go out "rescuing" people don't put them in more danger.
Have the fricking common sense to have life jackets
To go fetch people in that situation without life jackets is incredibly irresponsible
If you disagree - frick you I don't care.
Have the fricking common sense to have life jackets
To go fetch people in that situation without life jackets is incredibly irresponsible
If you disagree - frick you I don't care.
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 10:13 pm
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:53 am to Ryan423
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Burdens shouldn't be placed on them, but yet a system to help them out by providing fuel, communication and support from state and local officials should be implemented.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:49 am to choupiquesushi
My opinion, we don't need any further regulations.
The guys I know that did something like this, they don't call themselves "cajun navy" or anything like that. They were guys with boats, some of which were the only property they had that didn't go underwater. Most were blue collar and knew a number of police and firemen as friends, and were very aware of just how overwhelmed the official first responders were (a fireman is now living with my brother, since he also got flooded badly).
this was literally something out of a disaster movie, and we're all fortunate that some of our neighbors were lucky enough to have the necessary device (a boat) to help members of the community. It was all blind luck, and nobody can foresee this happening.
The guys I know that did something like this, they don't call themselves "cajun navy" or anything like that. They were guys with boats, some of which were the only property they had that didn't go underwater. Most were blue collar and knew a number of police and firemen as friends, and were very aware of just how overwhelmed the official first responders were (a fireman is now living with my brother, since he also got flooded badly).
this was literally something out of a disaster movie, and we're all fortunate that some of our neighbors were lucky enough to have the necessary device (a boat) to help members of the community. It was all blind luck, and nobody can foresee this happening.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:03 am to TheArrogantCorndog
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The whole point is to have our citizens permitted to legally go around police blockades
bullshite. The ultimate goal is that government will have total control of this effort which naturally will require oversight and....you guessed it, more tax dollars. It always starts off as something simple. Don't believe me? Look at taxes, look at social security, look at everything else the government gets their hands into.
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it's a necessary evil IMO
You're so naive and ignorant about what they are trying to do with this that you're going to condescendingly try and call out others as "baws" and try to soothe us with "it's a necessary evil" and you don't know what the frick you're talking about. This is an effort that will result in complete control, oversight, regulation, taxation, permitting, licensing and so much other bullshite that people will literally die before it all gets sorted out. I hate when ignorant arse people try to act high and mighty like they need to step in and tell people how to think when they don't have any fricking clue what they're talking about. I know they are starting off with a simple bill for right now but just because you're too stupid to see what a huge turd sandwich this will ultimately become doesn't mean the rest of us need to jump in the stupid boat with you.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:21 am to choupiquesushi
quote:I could not possibly disagree with you more on this. It's as if you live in a fantasy land where everyone can be as prepared as possible in no time flat. Life jackets? WTF?
No dumbass what I'm saying is if you are going to go out "rescuing" people don't put them in more danger.
Have the fricking common sense to have life jackets
To go fetch people in that situation without life jackets is incredibly irresponsible
If you disagree - frick you I don't care.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:42 am to Scoob
Meanwhile the guys who make and enforce the laws, break the law and bring in illegals to profit off of the flood damage...
Company that rented bus, packed it with laborers co-owned by a St. Tammany constable and Arkansas state rep
Company that rented bus, packed it with laborers co-owned by a St. Tammany constable and Arkansas state rep
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A company owned by a St. Tammany Parish constable and an Arkansas state representative hired the bus full of laborers that caused a fatal accident on Interstate 10 near LaPlace on Sunday, a co-owner of the company said, and the driver not only lacked a license but had racked up five previous citations for that, records show.
Federal authorities on Monday issued an immigration detainer for the bus driver, who lacked a driver's license of any sort — a strong indication that the Honduran national will be deported after his criminal case has been adjudicated and he has served any resulting prison time.
The roughly two dozen workers in the bus, most of whom received minor injuries, were en route to Baton Rouge to seek jobs with the firm Wallace, Rush, Schmidt Inc., which employs crews remediating flooded properties and which provided the bus, according to David Wallace, the Arkansas legislator who is one of the company's three principals. ...
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:05 pm to AlxTgr
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I could not possibly disagree with you more on this. It's as if you live in a fantasy land where everyone can be as prepared as possible in no time flat. Life jackets? WTF?
life jackets... really....that hard to keep track of? life jackets is being minimally prepared.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:12 pm to choupiquesushi
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life jackets... really....that hard to keep track of? life jackets is being minimally prepared
I don't believe there was anyone who was even minimally prepared for record 500 or 1000 year rainfall in a matter of weeks/days. I'll forgive them for being absentminded and forgetting the life jackets if they are using their own personal time and resources to save my life.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:21 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:How many you want per boat?
life jackets... really....that hard to keep track of? life jackets is being minimally prepared.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:28 pm to bapple
Wow this thread has really gotten dramatic, yall are acting as if the the volunteers scooped people up clinging to a tree with white water rapids and certain death below them, and if that were the case, absoultey get in there and get them out, but the "rescues" that I saw were out of convenience not a life and death situation and in that instance have a damn life jacket for everyone on the boat, unknown hazards, strange currents, non familiar locations and "new" waterways, the last thing we needed was another problem
as far as regulating and requiring stamps etc, that is bull shite but a life jacket?, you should not own a boat without one and to think of the non swimmers that got in boats?????
as far as regulating and requiring stamps etc, that is bull shite but a life jacket?, you should not own a boat without one and to think of the non swimmers that got in boats?????
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:29 pm to AlxTgr
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How many you want per boat?
1 per passanger
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:40 pm to chinese58
quote:well sounds like he had the push back but he just went ahead and did the work without their approval.
guess it was OK for him to help in Mississippi because their weren't national network news crews on every block. Or, like in Baton Rouge, common sense ruled the day.
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"There was a lot of red tape, and I ain't got time for that," he says. "I found out that if you're going to do something good, just go ahead and do it."
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:46 pm to AlxTgr
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How many you want per boat?
when i sent my son out- they had one extra plus a throwable on a rope...
but you know my answer.....
currents in many spots were unswimable. not too mention obstacle laden water a quick look at the bottom of our boat proves that... you hit water disoriented, knocked out or wind knocked out of you(good friend of mine drowned like this in cataouache)... doesn't matter if you can swim.
heck two people wanted me to go fetch people/things - but all my life jackets were with my son.. so i waited...
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:48 pm to bapple
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I don't believe there was anyone who was even minimally prepared for record 500 or 1000 year rainfall in a matter of weeks/days. I'll forgive them for being absentminded and forgetting the life jackets if they are using their own personal time and resources to save my life.
we are in a boat every weekend so i guess we stay prepared.
being absent minded about basic safety gets an awful lot of people killed.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:49 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:So, they could get one person?
when i sent my son out- they had one extra plus a throwable on a rope...
quote:No, no I don't. I don't get your take at all.
but you know my answer.....
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:51 pm to bapple
Is it okay to forget every rule of gun safety in an emergency situation? or is that the time when it is most important?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:55 pm to Tigerpaw123
quote:Is anyone advocating that?
you should not own a boat without one
Posted on 8/30/16 at 1:59 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
State Lawmaker wants to legislate Cajun Navy...
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when i sent my son out- they had one extra plus a throwable on a rope...
So, they could get one person?
1 extra over boat's capacity.....capacity of 5 brought 6
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:00 pm to AlxTgr
It seems like some are advocating operating the boat in some of the worst possible conditions with passengers of unknown capabilities without PFD's
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:00 pm to AlxTgr
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quote:
but you know my answer.....
No, no I don't. I don't get your take at all.
If you don't have the presence of mind and situational awareness, you might not be the right person for that job.
we can disagree just know that if me or mine come to fetch you we aren't going to drown you during egress....
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