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re: spinoff - getting rid of small bream?

Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

I need weapons of mass destruction



quote:

BP, how you rig up the burlap?


find a black walnut tree and collect the ripe fruits which have thick green/black husks.

fill a burlap sack with the walnuts and husks mashing up some of the husks when you put them in. (they will stain your hands, clothes, and anything else you get them on)

tie sack closed with rope and tie rope to bank

toss in pond.


ALL FISH DEAD EVERYWHERE.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17317 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:07 pm to
Holy shite, I never knew that
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30538 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:17 pm to
traps...

and traps
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:20 pm to
Rotenone
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29298 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

black walnut tree


Plants That Do Not Grow Within 50 Feet of Drip Line of Black Walnut
Herbaceous Perennials

Colorado Columbine, Aquilegia caerulea
Wild Columbine, Aquilegia canadensis
Asparagus, Asparagus offinalis
*Chrysanthemum Chrysanthumum species (some)
Baptisia australis
Hydrangea species
Lilies, Lilium species (particularly the Asian hybrids)
Alfalfa, Medicago sativa
Buttercup, Narcissus 'John Evelyn,' 'Unsurpassable' 'King Alfred' and 'Ice Follies'
Peonies, *Paeonia species (some)
Rhubarb, Rheum rhabarbarum

Trees

Silver Maple, Acer saccharinum
European Alder, Alnus glutinosa
White Birches, Betula species
Northern Hackberry, Celtis occidentalis
Apples and Crabapples, Malus species
Norway Spruce, Picea abies
Mugo Pine, Pinus mugo
Red Pine, Pinus resinosa
Eastern White Pine, Pinus strobus
Basswood, Tilia heterophylla

Shrubs

Red Chokeberry, Aronia arbutifolia
Hydrangea species
Mountain Laurels, Kalmia species
Privet, Ligustrum species
Amur Honeysuckle, Lonicera maackii
Brush Cinquefoil, Potentilla species
Rhododendrons and Azaleas, **Rhododendron species (most)
Blackberry, Rubus allegheniensis
Lilacs, Syringa species and cultivars
Yew, Taxus species
Blueberry, Vaccinium corymbosum
*Viburnum plicatum tomentosum 'Mariesii'

Annuals and Vegetables Transplants

Cabbage, Brassica oleracea capitata
Peppers, Capsicum species (some)
Tomatoes, Lycopersicon esculentum
Flowering Tobacco, Nicotiana alata
Petunia species and cultivars
Eggplant, Solanum melongena
Potato, Solanum tuberosum
double-flowered cole vegetables
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:35 pm to
transplant an Opelousas cat in there. Will eat erything.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:36 pm to
did not realize it had herbicidal properties either. neat
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29298 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:39 pm to
I couldn't figure out why my apple trees kept dying . . .


I have three large black walnuts around the camp. The state forester comes by every year and picks up the walnuts after they have fallen and uses them in their seedlings program. If anyone in Louisiana has ever purchased a black walnut seedling from the state, that might have come from me.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29298 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:41 pm to
Back on topic, if there are goggle eye in the pond, I would kill everything and just start over with hybrid bream and bass.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:47 pm to
We used to throw out a hand full of floating fish feed and wait till they start bubbling on the surface hitting the feed. Then we'd throw a cast net.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6847 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:50 pm to
My vote still goes for seining it. If it's a 1/2 acre pond, you'll catch a whole bunch of fish to eat when you seine. 99 times out of 100 there is a shiteload more stuff in ponds than people realize. Everyone says they know what's in their pond, but until you pull them all out you won't know. If you kill them all, you won't be eating them, then you'll be stuck with a crapload of dead fish in a pond.

Downside to the seining is you will catch all kinds of turtles and snakes. The fact that you have to get into the water where critters live eliminates 3/4 of the OB from trying it though. Where I live, we help seine for fun. It's a pretty good time. Some of the best times I had as a kid were seining farm ponds. The men would drag a seine of hundreds of fish on the bank, and us kids were in charge of sorting them into buckets and ice chests.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81621 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:52 pm to
We used to seine Bayou Robert when I was a kid. It was a blast until I cut my foot wide arse open on a piece of glass or tin or somesuch.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17317 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

if there are goggle eye in the pond, I would kill everything and just start over with hybrid bream and bass


Why's that? They're fun to catch, will they eat bass fingerlings or something?
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6847 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:07 pm to
I have a few scars from it as well. I'd still do it again tomorrow. Feel like Jesus fishing like that.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17317 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

My vote still goes for seining it.


I'm not opposed to it, but like I said draining isnt an option, and I would either have to buy or borrow a seine. It definitely would be interesting to see exactly what's in there though.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29298 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Why's that? They're fun to catch, will they eat bass fingerlings or something?


Because they are terrible to eat, at least in relation to bream and bass.

Any goggle eye I catch get a quick throw over the shoulder.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29298 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

It definitely would be interesting to see exactly what's in there though.


Killing the pond would show you what was in there too.



just sayin'
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81621 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:24 pm to
They are bad, but I don't think they overpopulate, and are fun to catch.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17317 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:29 pm to
Gotcha. I've always heard they aren't that bad. They will have to stay either way, I'm pretty weary of using any chemical treatments on someone else's land. Last thing I want is to be blamed for a bunch of dead pine seedlings, even if the chemical I used had nothing to do with it.

Really this is just going to be more of a learning experience for me so that I know what to do on my own land down the road. I've been pointed in a few directions I wouldn't have thought of already.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6847 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

I'm not opposed to it, but like I said draining isnt an option, and I would either have to buy or borrow a seine. It definitely would be interesting to see exactly what's in there though.


Kill a turtle or a 4-point to eat and OB gets pissed about it. Kill an entire pond of fish to let them rot and stink-out everyone for a mile around just to experiment on how a man would manage his own pond one day IF he ever has one and it's fine I guess. At least try to find a way to shock them where you could dip them up and eat some of them.

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