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Snake ID help

Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Snoopy04
Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:37 pm

This dude was just chillin in the driveway up to the office this morning. Was recently run over I think cause it wasn't flattened or anything.
Posted by Muriel
third ward
Member since Dec 2016
444 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:39 pm to
reticulated python
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:40 pm to
Looks like a rat snake.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21694 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:42 pm to
Yep, rat snake.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7723 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:50 pm to
Hey Teague and AlxTiger, I got this one right off the bat. A month ago, I couldn't have. Since I joined that Snake Identification group yall recommended, I've learned a lot.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21694 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Hey Teague and AlxTiger, I got this one right off the bat. A month ago, I couldn't have. Since I joined that Snake Identification group yall recommended, I've learned a lot.


Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
4622 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:22 pm to
Gray ratsnake, to be more specific

I have seen a couple around my house. Both were scaling the brick in my carport.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21898 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:27 pm to
I would've ran like a bitch and grabbed a shovel or a rake to kill it with thinking it was a cottonmouth due to the viper-looking head shape.

What's this snake identification group? I'd like to be able to easily recognize what snakes are harmless and which ones can kill me when I'm out in the woods.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:36 pm to
Just learn your rattlesnakes, coral snake, copperhead, and cottonmouth...all the rest are nonvenomous.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Gray ratsnake, to be more specific
how do you tell?

Here is what i would think. Ok the head is pointed, dangerous. it is long ans skinny, not dangerous. Pattern doesnt look like a copperhead, and isnt dark like a moccasin, not dangerous. Hell i have no clue what the frick it is, kill.


Hell even the Speckled King snake i saved the other week i was 99.9 % sure is was a speckled king snake and knew they are ok to handle. but that 0.1% chance it wasnt i used a 9 iron to pick him up and relocated to the bushes.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 9:02 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Gray ratsnake, to be more specific
how do you tell?
If you see enough of them and look at enough pics it gets like fish or birds-you just know. Like knowing a Kentucky before it's even out of the water. Black vs white crappie, etc.
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
4622 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:08 pm to
Mainly just the pattern of these snakes since I've seen them around my house.

Head shape isn't always a clear indicator. Best just to be careful if you aren't sure what if is.

As mentioned above, there is an ID group on Facebook and you can usually get an ID in less than 30 seconds of posting a picture. Those folks are nuts about snakes.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21694 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Gray ratsnake, to be more specific


The whole obsoletes species is a confusing mess that can really only be differentiated by geographic lines. It would probably make the most sense to call the gray ones gray, the black ones black, the yellow ones yellow, and the brownish ones Texas or western, but it's not that simple. And there are intergrades between all the subspecies.


Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:07 pm to
Great, I like close to a convergence of three lines.
Posted by TIGERBAIT2020
The Red Zone
Member since Aug 2004
802 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:52 pm to
Monty Python
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9369 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

What's this snake identification group? I'd like to be able to easily recognize what snakes are harmless and which ones can kill me when I'm out in the woods.


Always look at the eyes. If the pupils are round, it's harmless. If it's a thin vertical pupil... run.

I think the Coral Snake is the exception here in the US.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7723 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:02 am to
quote:

What's this snake identification group? I'd like to be able to easily recognize what snakes are harmless and which ones can kill me when I'm out in the woods.


Here ya go. Read the rules before you post anything, though. They are very strict about comments. If you can't ID the snake positively, then don't post. They have snake experts there who can and will identify any snake. I've learned a LOT in the last month. LINK
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 10:05 am
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