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Scuba Divers...Photography question
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:24 pm
Recently got my OW cert and now pressing into my Advanced Adventure Diving Cert and one of the options is U/W photography which is one of my hobbies on dry land. So it seemed logical to pick it up to and combine the two hobbies. Problem I'm finding is no one makes an U/W housing for my Canon Digital Rebel XTI (EOS 400D). It's just too old. Trying not to buy a new camera and housing but I will if necessary....
Do any of you have a go-to camera you use or does everyone just seem to use GO-PROs these days? I have a Nikon S6300 P/S(?...not sure of the number) but no one seems to make the housing for that one either.
Any ideas?
TIA.
Do any of you have a go-to camera you use or does everyone just seem to use GO-PROs these days? I have a Nikon S6300 P/S(?...not sure of the number) but no one seems to make the housing for that one either.
Any ideas?
TIA.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:28 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
I use a GoPro for spearfishing but I wouldn't use it for actual underwater photography. Not good enough quality for what you can get out there.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:45 pm to headedwest21
Yeah, I noticed Mike Reed (RIP) used to use a GoPro...I was thinking of the new Hero 5 Black...but I know there's better out there...I'm just looking for something to document my trips...have something of a memory saved....
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:48 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
I have buddies that take phenomenal underwater pictures and videos. Even with the $2-3000 cameras they have GoPros attached and the quality is the same
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:04 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
I have an old GoPro 2. Does good for me but I'd like to hear some opinions on how much better the 5 is. Is it worth upgrading?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:09 pm to mylsuhat
I wish I would have had something at Vortex during my OW. The bluegill in that place are FEARLESS. Saw a few bass and a few freshwater eels near the cave entrance. I was having to push bluegill out of the way to see my instructor. It was surreal.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:10 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
I actually caught one of them and threw it on the dock. The workers were none too pleased but every patron at the springs thought it was the best
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:12 pm to mylsuhat
That's awesome. I didn't get to go there. Snorkeled quitea few times as a kid there but I did my open water in Panama City which was boring because it's no different than going to the rigs
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:33 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
I have a Nikon D300s in an ikelite housing, twin DS161 strobes with a GoPro mounted on top next to a SOLA 800 focus light. I have found that in very clear water with good ambient light the stills from my GoPro are as good as most of my camera's pics.
My girlfriend uses a tray mounted GoPro with twin SOLA video lights and the FLIP3 lens set. She gets decent video, but the lighting is uneven. The flip lenses are cool, but they're more of good at a few things and great at nothing.
There are a few P&S underwater cameras out there that do a very good job. Sealife makes one.
If you are truly wanting to get into underwater photography, nothing can beat a camera with slaved strobes. Maybe look around ebay for a housing. Just like your SLR, the key is to have good lenses and good ports. Housings and SLR bodies will come and go.
My advice: Take your time with the camera decision. Get a GoPro to play with. Keep diving and nail your buoyancy control down. This is critical if you ever go full-housing setup. You won't capture anything if you're too busy fighting to maintain position.
My girlfriend uses a tray mounted GoPro with twin SOLA video lights and the FLIP3 lens set. She gets decent video, but the lighting is uneven. The flip lenses are cool, but they're more of good at a few things and great at nothing.
There are a few P&S underwater cameras out there that do a very good job. Sealife makes one.
If you are truly wanting to get into underwater photography, nothing can beat a camera with slaved strobes. Maybe look around ebay for a housing. Just like your SLR, the key is to have good lenses and good ports. Housings and SLR bodies will come and go.
My advice: Take your time with the camera decision. Get a GoPro to play with. Keep diving and nail your buoyancy control down. This is critical if you ever go full-housing setup. You won't capture anything if you're too busy fighting to maintain position.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:48 pm to Bamadiver
Completely understand the buoyancy fundamental is the most important thing.
Yeah, Sealife has had mixed reviews. As a result I'm likely staying away from it. I've read several hundred. The 5-stars could be fanbois...so I discount them. I'm more worried about the failures and what happens afterwards...and I'm not impressed with what I've seen so far.
Just looking at Olympus TG-4s...and some others...If I need to buy a new one...I'll do that...but likely I'll just go with a GoPro initially to see how I like it...and if it takes good enough pix, I'll stay with it...if it's not to my liking...I'll upgrade...and that point it'll likely be a D-SLR and I'll buy the housing at that time. I'm not a camera snob..so either Canon or Nikon's work for me. I guess I'm more partial to Nikon since my rifle glass is also Nikon...Never owned an Olympus but I've heard good things about the CMOS sensor...so that's not out of the question.
I appreciate all the help too guys!
Yeah, Sealife has had mixed reviews. As a result I'm likely staying away from it. I've read several hundred. The 5-stars could be fanbois...so I discount them. I'm more worried about the failures and what happens afterwards...and I'm not impressed with what I've seen so far.
Just looking at Olympus TG-4s...and some others...If I need to buy a new one...I'll do that...but likely I'll just go with a GoPro initially to see how I like it...and if it takes good enough pix, I'll stay with it...if it's not to my liking...I'll upgrade...and that point it'll likely be a D-SLR and I'll buy the housing at that time. I'm not a camera snob..so either Canon or Nikon's work for me. I guess I'm more partial to Nikon since my rifle glass is also Nikon...Never owned an Olympus but I've heard good things about the CMOS sensor...so that's not out of the question.
I appreciate all the help too guys!
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:50 pm to mylsuhat
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I actually caught one of them and threw it on the dock. The workers were none too pleased but every patron at the springs thought it was the best
YEEEAHHHH....I could have easily done that too..but I decided against it...I did feel like I was at an all you can eat seafood buffet looking at them though!
Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:00 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:It's why I never bought one myself, but I've seen Cindy (Harry's Dive Shop)take pics that blew everything away when we were in the Philippines. It really comes down to the photographer, just like land photography. A good DSLR system will run you over $10k easily so at the Sealife price it may be worth it. Good luck.
Yeah, Sealife has had mixed reviews
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:46 pm to Bamadiver
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If you are truly wanting to get into underwater photography, nothing can beat a camera with slaved strobes. Maybe look around ebay for a housing. Just like your SLR, the key is to have good lenses and good ports. Housings and SLR bodies will come and go.
My advice: Take your time with the camera decision. Get a GoPro to play with. Keep diving and nail your buoyancy control down. This is critical if you ever go full-housing setup. You won't capture anything if you're too busy fighting to maintain position.
This is good advice. While a GoPro may give you decent stills, and that may be all you're looking for, nothing will compare to a full bodied DSLR/mirrorless with a quality housing.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:50 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
I use a GoPro. I have some nice footage from the Maldives if you want to see it.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:11 am to ctiger69
Which GoPro? I'd love to see it.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:44 am to Bamadiver
The Sealife reviews I had the problems with was the failures...not the quality. I've seen average to great reviews on picture quality..it was service after the sale and failures that caused catastrophic loss of the camera that have caused me to hit the pause button on that camera.
I wish Ikelite would make housings for older cameras too...but it seems like they make a run of housings..and when they're gone, they're gone. Kinda like a limited run of alcohol.
I wish Ikelite would make housings for older cameras too...but it seems like they make a run of housings..and when they're gone, they're gone. Kinda like a limited run of alcohol.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:27 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
Intova makes a camera very similar to a gopro but customized for diving. Get a red filter with it, or any camera you buy. The intova is cheaper than the gopro too.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:51 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:Welcome to the digital photography age. DSLR/Mirrorless bodies change annually. So goes the housings. It will cost me thousands of dollars when my D300s finally retires. New body means new housing. The same applies to point-and-shoots. $$$$$$
I wish Ikelite would make housings for older cameras too...but it seems like they make a run of housings..and when they're gone, they're gone
As to your comment on failures. I won't comment on the company, but the slightest lapse in maintaining an UW system can earn you a flood. I'm talking a hair on an o-ring, even fine dust. Forget to rinse after a saltwater dive and salt crystals start forming. Even better, drop your camera system in the mask rinse bucket. Many defoggers will eat o-rings over time. If someone floods a system due to not paying attention, that is on the user, not the manufacturer. It happens all the time.
There is no system, including GoPro that is 100% failure-proof if you don't maintain it correctly. If you get a GoPro, remember to store the underwater case open. The o-ring compresses if stored closed and will leak eventually (not as big a deal now that the 5's are waterproof). At it's price point, compared to a full system, it's almost disposable if you're OT rich. I still have my 2, 3 and 4 units.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:55 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:
I wish I would have had something at Vortex during my OW. The bluegill in that place are FEARLESS. Saw a few bass and a few freshwater eels near the cave entrance. I was having to push bluegill out of the way to see my instructor. It was surreal.
If you think the bluegill DGAF, try turning on a headlight in the cave or near it at night. Those eels will scare the shite out of you when the make a sudden charge at your face.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:08 am to Jester
quote:They do have an attitude. Had one attack one of my fins like a terminator last year at Vortex. Students thought it was hilarious.
Those eels will scare the shite out of you when the make a sudden charge at your face.
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