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re: Pogie boats again
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:24 am to Deepwood
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:24 am to Deepwood
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willing to increase regulation on recreational anglers but don’t lift a finger on the industrial fishing
Well as a recreational angler, how many politicians have you greased today? Probably not many. You'll get shite on and you'll like it or you'll go fish somewhere else.
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Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:27 am to Deepwood
quote:
The House is passing them nearly 75% in favor. Then they get referred to the Senate Resource Committee, where Senator Hensgens (Chairman of the Committee) can single handedly kill them just by not hearing them in the committee.
Its all PR moves and LA politics. I've seen bills get passed by one, knowing they would get rejected by the other.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:40 am to Deepwood
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So willing to increase regulation on recreational anglers but don’t lift a finger on the industrial fishing.
I understand your frustration but the reality is LDWF is bound by the laws that congress passes. We have to get congress to act if we want to see actually fair treatment of this issue.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:59 am to KemoSabe65
I think that every bank fisherman in Louisiana should keep a photo of this in their pocket. And keep all fish that are gut hooked, even if undersized, and count it toward their limit. And if WLF tries to give them hell, pull out that photo, and say "I'm just trying to feed my family. You been to the grocery store lately? Seen the prices? At least I don't let them go to waste by the thousands"
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:32 pm to F73ME
Out of curiosity - is it about the same percentage bycatch by a troller vs a pogie boat ?
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:56 pm to OGhunter777
quote:
Out of curiosity - is it about the same percentage bycatch by a troller vs a pogie boat ?
Pogey Boat article
Based on that article
Menhaden-611 million lbs
Shrimp-64 million lbs
—noaa 2020 study for Louisiana
At 10x the catch amount I would assume the by catch is significantly more.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 1:21 pm to OGhunter777
quote:Higher for pogey boats. Trawls have bycatch reduction devices to try to cut down on other species getting caught in the nets. Pogey nets indiscriminately catch everything and by the time the nets get pulled out of the water, everything that got caught in the net has already died of suffocation.
Out of curiosity - is it about the same percentage bycatch by a troller vs a pogie boat ?
Posted on 9/19/23 at 2:31 pm to Tiger Prawn
I just checked the AIS and there are 19 F/V's between South Marsh Island and Sabine Pass...all of them are a few miles from the coast....you can also look at Flightaware and see the planes that are taking off from Abbeville and Patterson and look at their routes..... flying over the the boats spotting the fish
Omega Protein and Ocean Harvesters are the main culprits, a few boats from Plaquemines Parish Port and Pascagoula.
Omega Protein and Ocean Harvesters are the main culprits, a few boats from Plaquemines Parish Port and Pascagoula.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 3:09 pm to tgrbaitn08
Based on the track it looks like the Sea Wasp ( a pogie boat) made a set just west of Rutherford beach. Hope no one had any plans to go there this weekend….
I they would just put some restrictions on them atleast during redfish spawning season… I guess common sense is hard to find up at the capital
I they would just put some restrictions on them atleast during redfish spawning season… I guess common sense is hard to find up at the capital
Posted on 9/19/23 at 3:16 pm to Deepwood
Yep. that boat came straight from Empire yesterday
Posted on 9/19/23 at 3:24 pm to Deepwood
They were on Rutherford Friday. Had one big boat and a spotter plane. They were at least a mile away thank goodness
Posted on 9/19/23 at 3:58 pm to Ron Cheramie
This whole thing a complete embarrassment. Louisiana is literally the only state that these guys are allowed to operate. They have been untouchable with our current Governor...and they are giving tons of money to Landry and other candidates. We need one of these guys to stand up and do whats right for our state...
Posted on 9/19/23 at 4:12 pm to GITiger66
Anyone know enough about campaign finance or election laws to figure who and how much are getting money from Omega and Daybrook? Especially Connick and Hensgens.
I sure they’ve pretty good at hiding it at this point.
I sure they’ve pretty good at hiding it at this point.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:01 am to GITiger66
Landry will be no different on this than Honor Code. Even his formal statement to CCA made it really clear he’d side the commercials.
Louisiana Trial Lawyers are scum of the Earth, especially when they hold so many of the political offices.
Louisiana Trial Lawyers are scum of the Earth, especially when they hold so many of the political offices.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:20 am to Icansee4miles
Landry has taken more than $200,000 from one of the Pogie Companies that is easily verified. There is definitely more funneled through their lobbyist to him...
Posted on 9/20/23 at 10:46 am to GITiger66
you can read between the lines on Landry's response that he would likely veto any action against the Pogey boats.
CCA interviews candidates on pogie issue
Landry:
I oppose wasteful fishing practices, whatever they may be. Commercial fishing operations must be conducted in a responsible and sustainable way, including the bycatch from the menhaden fishery. This will allow us to maintain Louisiana’s precious natural resources. There must be an accountable balance between commerce and conservation.
I support science-based fishery management. If science indicates that additional regulations on the menhaden fishery will materially improve the health of other species, particularly troubled species like redfish and speckled trout, then as Governor I will support those new regulations.
I would however, not support regulation that harms any commercial fishery that is not supported by science. Just as I have done in opposing unnecessary regulations that hurt our recreational fishing.
Jeff Landry (R)
Wags:
YES. I will support such a limit. I am committed to working together with all parties to implement this in such a way that will protect the coast and these critical resources, enhance the recreational experience and also secure the Louisiana jobs in this industry. By working together, we will get this done.
Stephen Waguespack (R)
CCA interviews candidates on pogie issue
Landry:
I oppose wasteful fishing practices, whatever they may be. Commercial fishing operations must be conducted in a responsible and sustainable way, including the bycatch from the menhaden fishery. This will allow us to maintain Louisiana’s precious natural resources. There must be an accountable balance between commerce and conservation.
I support science-based fishery management. If science indicates that additional regulations on the menhaden fishery will materially improve the health of other species, particularly troubled species like redfish and speckled trout, then as Governor I will support those new regulations.
I would however, not support regulation that harms any commercial fishery that is not supported by science. Just as I have done in opposing unnecessary regulations that hurt our recreational fishing.
Jeff Landry (R)
Wags:
YES. I will support such a limit. I am committed to working together with all parties to implement this in such a way that will protect the coast and these critical resources, enhance the recreational experience and also secure the Louisiana jobs in this industry. By working together, we will get this done.
Stephen Waguespack (R)
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:10 am to TopWaterTiger
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:26 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:
KPLC aired this story about the fish kill.
Great! Joe Q Public needs to know about these type things!
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:05 pm to KemoSabe65
Posted on 9/20/23 at 9:08 pm to Potchafa
quote:
We need to do like Green Peace and go out in our boats and throw piss bombs and bags of dog shite at their vessels!
Lol, that would be like throwing perfume on them.
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