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Outdoor Kitchen Planning

Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:30 am
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7582 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:30 am
I'm in the starting stages of a new home build.

I'm not much of a griller now but our backyard sucks and we don't spend much time back there. The new backyard and outdoor living area of the new house will be a focal point. I'm very excited to get to outdoor cooking and hopefully, it turns into a nice hobby for me.

So far I've decided on the following:
Primo XL Oval
Sink with garbage disposal (any tips on the disposal make/model?)

I'm not sure what else I should go with. I'm really debating on if I should also do a gas grill or not. If not, I could always buy a Weber propane and use it as need be if I find the need for gas. I don't want to regret having a gas grill or not having a gas grill.

What else should I consider?

The blue area is the proposed outdoor kitchen area:

This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4718 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:46 am to
I'd rather have burners for boils and a wok.

THis was my neighbors house.

loved everything but the range and microwave

we used the hell out of those burners



I forgot he went and added a filler spigot on that brick.
Also he wished he had a hood some days.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 11:52 am
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1870 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:48 am to
I'll post pics of mine when it's done next week on my new house.

I have a bull angus 30" grill with drawers and door below. To the right between the sink and gas grill is a beverage cooler. Glass front with lights, wanted something different. Also have a sink and access for for it. The left of the grill is my primo jr about a foot below the top of counter.

They are building it tomorrow and I'll try and update with pics.

I didn't put a disposal on my sink but a 1/2 hp should do out there.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Sink with garbage disposal (any tips on the disposal make/model?


One of my favored additions to mine when we built. I went for the most HP not so much brand. Get the biggest one they offer. I can grind all kinds of stuff out there with out worry.

I opted for a second primo vs a gas grill. Ill take the little extra time maybe to prep the primo vs gas becasue the flavor does not compare. I have a dual gas burner so I have gas piped if I change my mind one day...but thats not going to happen.

Put access doors any place possible for storage and access. I was able to fit doors under my primo that hold big bags of royal oak with ease.

You need to plan for how much depth you need to have the primo open fully and not hit a back splash.

Biggest sink you can fit.

Extra outlets that are on there own circuit if possible. If you fry foods some of those fryers pull a good bit of power. I try to run 2 and it trips...I have to run a extension cord from another circuit. So just be mindful...fridge...fryers...some power hungry things.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:58 am to
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Also he wished he had a hood some days


When we did ours it was against the house at first and we were told we HAD to get a hood for code. It would have been a a chunk of $ for it all so we moved it so it would not be against the house. Wind cuts across the back porch so sometimes its under but blows through. We would have spent that $ on the vent and it wouldnt have done well.

Puy some outlets in the corner of the ceiling hooked to a switch on the wall. You can put some fans up there to help move air in addition to regular ceiling fans. OR you can use those outlets for nice string lighting. Change wall a switch out for a remote control kind and use your phone to control.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:13 pm to
I would also look at making your counter make a L into that 16' area depending what is in that yard. Once you start putting grill, sink, burners, it eats up space fast.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16217 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:50 pm to
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I'm not much of a griller now


quote:

hopefully, it turns into a nice hobby for me


This is an expensive way to discover a hobby. Why not just buy a cheap grill and see if you'll like it rather than sinking thousands into an outdoor kitchen?

With that said, I've been planning this for about a year and I'm in the process of building mine now. I just had my stamped concrete placed last week. We extended our existing patio and added more concrete to accommodate the kitchen area. Part of the new extension (16' x 20') will be covered with an insulated patio cover and we'll have two ceiling fans and some recessed led lighting underneath. The kitchen area will be an L-shaped kitchen with a split bar. It will be equipped with a 32" Blaze grill, a double gas burner, green egg, a 15" bar sink, and some access doors and drawers. Kitchen will be covered with stacked stone and counters will be 3cm granite. A pergola will be install over the kitchen area with a ceiling fan and string lights along the perimeter. I'm currently doing the framing out of metal studs in my garage. I'm about 30% complete with the framing. Soon I'll be running a new circuit for either a 60A or 100A sub-panel that will supply the electrical needs of the entire backyard. I'm documenting everything as I go along and will post pictures of the entire process when it's done.

Those of you who have outdoor kitchens, where did you find your sinks and faucets? I'm shopping for one right now and everything I read about the more affordable sinks and faucets (sub $300) all have sketchy reviews. I'm looking for something that will hold up to the elements of being exposed to the weather.

This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 4:14 pm to
I have a regular ol SS sink...I think 15" sink will be way too small out there. Id have to measure mine but id guess 24" or more. I have a small 15" on my bar and it sucks to even rinse a martini glass. Faucet is a regular old SS one that has the detachable head and the coiled spring around the neck.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16217 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

I have a regular ol SS sink...I think 15" sink will be way too small out there. Id have to measure mine but id guess 24" or more. I have a small 15" on my bar and it sucks to even rinse a martini glass. Faucet is a regular old SS one that has the detachable head and the coiled spring around the neck.


Thanks for the tip. I will have to rethink the sink size and probably go with a larger one. I don't want one too big for my space though.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 6:26 am to
Yea but you want one big enough to use. My bar one when I wash a martini glass it splashes water out of the sink and I have to be carful maneuvering the glass around. In the outdoor kitchen I can wash all my crawfish boil platters and whatnot...and with the disposal it doesn't matter if claws and shells go down the drain.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 6:57 am to
FYI my dad has the primo oval and wishes he had a green egg like mine. The oval has pretty big temp variances in the oval shape, the back left is colder than the front right, I think the air goes in a circular motion and it gets air last so stays cooler. Which could be good and bad, but it uses a lot more charcoal and doesn't last for 10 hour+ smokes as well either. Just an FYI if you've never used it.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:00 am to
I have done 16hrs on my primo and could have easily gone 10 more. I prefer the oval for the extra room...6 full racks of ribs no rolling noncutting no problem. But any ceramic is > gas imo. I was all set for a big ol gas then wick convinced me to try a primo. Rest is a smoky history.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
10999 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:00 am to
This is one I just did for a client. He went with all Blaze 42" pit, 42" hood, side burner, ice maker, fridge and a 24" open sink. I tried to talk him into a pot filler over the side burner. I need to go back and get more pics now that he's furnished it. The total layout was 40' x 60'




Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:01 am to
make sure you get that hot water spout
Posted by lacajun069
franklinton
Member since Sep 2008
2089 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:09 am to
If Money is not an Option contact Texas Pitmakers or check out Kalamazoo grills out door kitchen idea and designs.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16217 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:21 am to
quote:

This is one I just did for a client.


Damn, that's really nice. Looks well out of my price range and out of range for the neighborhood I live in. That looks like it cost at least $50k. With something like that built, I'd assume the houses are above the $450-500k range. My little project will be around $27k when everything is done.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
10999 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:53 am to
It's in a rural area of south BR. The outdoor area ended up being an add on while we were doing a complete remodel to the house. It looks really good now that they've hung all their tvs and laid out all of their furniture.
Posted by SpeckledTiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
1477 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

One of my favored additions to mine when we built. I went for the most HP not so much brand. Get the biggest one they offer. I can grind all kinds of stuff out there with out worry.


I just got a Waste King Legend 8000 1hp. It will handle anything you can put down it except mammal bones. It also has a lifetime warranty that includes in-home service.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 6:56 pm to
Mine is a 1hp too but I don't know the brand. Love it outside!
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