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Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:29 am to JasonL79
Can you provide a link to that? I'd like to read it...
I wonder if it's just oppotunistic species or actual succession and progradation of forest and edge habitats.
I wonder if it's just oppotunistic species or actual succession and progradation of forest and edge habitats.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:29 am to JasonL79
Dredging is really expensive, and on top of that it can disrupt the natural flow pattern of the river which could cause significant sediment loss.
Eta: which I guess is the purpose, but there are some negative side effects especially on plant life and nutrient growth that is vital for wildlife.
Eta: which I guess is the purpose, but there are some negative side effects especially on plant life and nutrient growth that is vital for wildlife.
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 10:32 am
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:31 am to PapaPogey
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Dredging is really expensive,
Ungodly expensive...
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:33 am to GREENHEAD22
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. Expand the state waters to the same mile as the rest of the gulf coast states, use the new $ to help with restoration.
2. Blow all the levees south of BC and open the spillway every time the river is high enough.
3. Force O&G companies to bring in fill and close up canals no longer being used or needed.
Of course known of this will happen but it would be a good start.
This is correct, however, it indeed won't happen. Our best chance is to stop saltwater intrusion. We'll never blow levees anywhere to allow river flooding. Never. And opening the spillway takes almost an act of God as it is.
Narrower passes and freshwater diversions are all we got.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:36 am to nhassl1
Army Corp of Engineers spent over $200 million dredging after the flood last year.
Eta: a small percentage of the 1.7 billion they received to repair levees, dams, and spillways. Talk about big money that drives this!
Eta: a small percentage of the 1.7 billion they received to repair levees, dams, and spillways. Talk about big money that drives this!
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 10:38 am
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:37 am to treble hook
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Narrower passes and freshwater diversions are all we got.
That is what I was thinking too to stop the salt water intrusion. We also have to fill in those (as HeadBusta4LSU says) those retarded cuts. All that with rebuilding the barrier islands might slow it down.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:39 am to treble hook
I see the oyster men are bitching now. I loved the quote that basically went like this:
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We are going to have to either move people or oysters. If we have to choose between people or oysters, we will choose moving oysters every time.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:39 am to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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All that with rebuilding the barrier islands might slow it down.
Exactly. We have to stop the saltwater from coming in. You can pump a diversion all day but at the rate the saltwater is pouring into the marshes it does no good.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:46 am to AlxTgr
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I see the oyster men are bitching now
Yea what a joke. Maybe they'll stop bitching when they're fishing oysters in the marsh around Baton Rouge.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:52 am to treble hook
If the river avulses, the old birdfoot delta deposits will get reworked into barrier islands!
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:54 am to Pectus
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Can you provide a link to that? I'd like to read it...
I wonder if it's just oppotunistic species or actual succession and progradation of forest and edge habitats.
I guess your question was for me. I have no link. Seen it with my own eyes probably 10-20+ times on dredging projects they have done south of Venice over the years. The new sand (they usually dredge several feet high) usually spurs growth of Willow trees, wax myrtles, and lots of other plants. It has to pumped at a high enough elevation for the trees to grow from what I've seen. I'm no botanist so I really don't know what types of plants and little trees that grow up. On the edges of the dredged sand you get fly grass, roseau canes, etc which are good habitat for ducks/geese.
The deer/hogs/rabbit population just come from surrounding areas. There has been a loss of land down there for years and about 40+ years ago there was a huge deer population. They actually even took deer out of that area on barges to repopulate deer throughout the state. So with the added land, it's just new land for them to grow into. The herd is basically land trapped down there. It would grow tremendously with new land and a lack of hurricanes that is.
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:58 am to JasonL79
Ive seen it to, after they dredge that shite is so fertile. The animals come in like crazy. My favorite thing to do is catch a limit of specks and reds, then anchor the boat and kill a limit of rabbits
Posted on 12/14/12 at 10:59 am to treble hook
has anyone read the 2012 Coastal Master Plan? its kind of a "pie-in-the-sky" idea, but it is feasible and doable from a technical perspective and financial perspective.
commercial fishermen are professional generational bitchers. nothing is ever good enough and they will never stop bitching.
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Maybe they'll stop bitching when they're fishing oysters in the marsh around Baton Rouge.
commercial fishermen are professional generational bitchers. nothing is ever good enough and they will never stop bitching.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:14 am to Vol Fan in the Bayou
i've been involved with restoration projects. you can't imagine the money thrown around, and the time it takes for one project to get done.
a big dredging vessel costs $50 million. and basically the creation projects cost 25 mil. each (few hundred acres). instead of the state just buying one, and keep it running full time restoring the coastline, we'd rather make xxx rich off these projects.
as always, corrupt.. these guys dont' give a shite, just hanging where the money is.
a big dredging vessel costs $50 million. and basically the creation projects cost 25 mil. each (few hundred acres). instead of the state just buying one, and keep it running full time restoring the coastline, we'd rather make xxx rich off these projects.
as always, corrupt.. these guys dont' give a shite, just hanging where the money is.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:15 am to toadmanalcatraz
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commercial fishermen are professional generational bitchers. nothing is ever good enough and they will never stop bitching.
I know. I've got a few in the family. And I've worked in the industry for a few summers.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:23 am to treble hook
My buddies at Javeler love the state and the marsh projects.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:27 am to lsufan112001
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as always, corrupt.. these guys dont' give a shite, just hanging where the money is.
That's because it's funded by government, and often administered by universities, who are proud to use "dollars spent" as their primary measure of success.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:35 am to hawkster
Turning the projects in to private operations may not be that bad of a idea. The state buying its own dredger is even better yet.
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