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re: Our disappearing wetlands
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:13 pm to hawkster
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:13 pm to hawkster
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Have you ever put leaves on a pile in the fall and noticed that they decay and compress over time? Organic matter decays and compresses. A key component of soil subsidence.
Great example.
I am a guy from Tennessee where limestone is the norm rather than marshland, so I am very ignorant to a lot of what is happening ecologically here in LA. 
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:14 pm to PapaPogey
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state and federal not seeing eye to eye on key conservation issues
Different boondoggles enrich and empower different cronies and contributors.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:16 pm to PapaPogey
I wish people from La would take more pride and work hard to prevent the wetlands from disappearing. Any conservationist (which should include hunters, fishermen) should fight hard to keep habitat from disappearing. La has some beautiful and unique places and hopefully people will resolve to fight for them.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:19 pm to hawkster
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There is a lack of funding but also the lack of a prioritization system at the federal level for allocating funds for critical water resources infrastructure. The challenges facing the Gulf Coast reflect a national inability to come to grips with the need to deal with neglected infrastructure, both natural and built, and the realization that both provide security to coastal communities. It will not be possible to protect and restore coastal Louisiana without significant changes in the way federal and state governments deal with these issues.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
It's unsettling knowing that some of the great things we experience will be no longer for our grandchildren.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:21 pm to HeadBusta4LSU
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heres a fine example of retarded oil cuts
And I bet they haven't set up some shill conversation organization that deflects any blame toward them by pointing to studies that said organization directed.
Oh wait. America's Wetland
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:22 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
I've read most of this thread and some posters are spot on and some are missing the extra bit that brings their point within reason.
I could write pages on this. I'll think about writing an answer if I feel it's worth it and there is time.
I could write pages on this. I'll think about writing an answer if I feel it's worth it and there is time.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:23 pm to PapaPogey
if those damn arabs can build islands the shape of a palm tree out in the ocean we should be able to build up our damn coast line
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:23 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
Wetlands conservation foundations funded by the same billion dollar companies that are destroying it. 
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:24 pm to PapaPogey
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It's unsettling knowing that some of the great things we experience will be no longer for our grandchildren.
Yes it is.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:26 pm to PapaPogey
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There is a lack of funding but also the lack of a prioritization system at the federal level for allocating funds for critical water resources infrastructure. The challenges facing the Gulf Coast reflect a national inability to come to grips with the need to deal with neglected infrastructure, both natural and built, and the realization that both provide security to coastal communities. It will not be possible to protect and restore coastal Louisiana without significant changes in the way federal and state governments deal with these issues.
There will never be remotely enough money available to solve this problem on any meaningful scale. And the fact that multiple layers of politicians, bureaucrats, and environmentalists are the players, means that the legitimately unobtainable amount of money required is increased exponentially.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:26 pm to Pectus
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I could write pages on this. I'll think about writing an answer if I feel it's worth it and there is time.
This is always a topic of interest to me and would like to hear your thoughts.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:27 pm to PapaPogey
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This is always a topic of interest to me and would like to hear your thoughts.
Me too.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I wish people from La would take more pride and work hard to prevent the wetlands from disappearing
I agree. But its just not a Louisiana issue - it has to start here - but it really is a national issue.
Think about it like this. If the US was loosing a football field an hour to a foreign country, the people of this country would be lining up at the draft boards to take it back. Not a great analogy, but close. Whats worse, if a foreign country was taking that much land we could take it back. Here, its gone forever.
I agree. I am shocked by the lack of urgency that people down here feel toward this issue. I am not shocked by the lack of urgency by our politicians. Too much money on the local, state and federal levels.
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:36 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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heres a fine example of retarded oil cuts And I bet they haven't set up some shill conversation organization that deflects any blame toward them by pointing to studies that said organization directed.
when was the last time you saw a new oil field canal being dredged? you probably haven't because they aren't allowed to do this anymore and they really don't have to with today's directional drilling tech.
those canals play a part as a conduit for saltwater intrusion and shoreline erosion, but the biggest culprit are the levees along the Miss. Rv.
Not to mention, even if we did have a bunch of diversions or even blasted the levees south of say, Belle Chase, the river doesn't have a fraction of the sediments it used to have before all of the dams were built along it and it's major tributaries.
you'd be shocked at how much money oil companies spend to fix old messes.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:42 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
re: Our disappearing wetlands (Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:32 p.m. to RogerTheShrubber)
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I wish people from La would take more pride and work hard to prevent the wetlands from disappearing
I agree. But its just not a Louisiana issue - it has to start here - but it really is a national issue.
If it isn't starting and being directed from the area, other people will take control and you will have very little voice in the matter. I have seen it happen here multiple times.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:44 pm to Pectus
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I could write pages on this
Posted on 12/13/12 at 3:50 pm to toadmanalcatraz
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those canals play a part as a conduit for saltwater intrusion and shoreline erosion, but the biggest culprit are the levees along the Miss. Rv. Not to mention, even if we did have a bunch of diversions or even blasted the levees south of say, Belle Chase, the river doesn't have a fraction of the sediments it used to have before all of the dams were built along it and it's major tributaries.
I'm with you on this part.
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The sediment that once breached natural levees and nourished the wetlands was instead channeled out into the Gulf of Mexico, in essence starving the delta and causing it to recede rather than grow.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:32 pm to Pectus
OK. Read the rest...
Good points all around. The thing is to remember is the effect of coastal erosion we see today are from the combination of different events each of which are working on different time scales. I don't think the blame really falls on any one group, it's just the situation that we are in, and it's not really reversible.
Good points all around. The thing is to remember is the effect of coastal erosion we see today are from the combination of different events each of which are working on different time scales. I don't think the blame really falls on any one group, it's just the situation that we are in, and it's not really reversible.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:51 pm to Pectus
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and it's not really reversible
Is it not reversible because it isn't feasible?
If not reversible - can it be slowed or even halted?
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