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Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:49 pm to MrCoachKlein
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The ultimate eviscerator, baw
This line is plaguin muh mind baw.
85#=4Hundo? Sheeeeeeeeeit
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:53 pm to BRgetthenet
Cape buffalo horn-piercing capabilities, they're outlawed on two continents.
So fast, you cannot see it.
So fast, you cannot see it.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:57 pm to BRgetthenet
Been shooting z7 extreme since '12. I don't want to ever get rid of it. Smooth as silk. Shot with my buddy last week who has the new Halon, and mine is much more quiet. I think he was starting to get a little buyers remorse 
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:04 pm to tigertyler
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Shot with my buddy last week who has the new Halon, and mine is much more quiet.
I would be curious as to how both were set up. Im a Z7 fanboy, owned one and will probably own another at some point since you can get them pretty cheap used, but Ive shot my Halon next to Z7's and remember what mine was like and I definitely wouldnt say any of them are quieter or much quieter than my Halon.
the fact that you can get a used Z7 under $500 rigged is a huge plus compared to what I just paid to buy and rig my Halon. A couple weeks after I was raving about my new bow, a buddy bought a ready to hunt, used Z7 for $450
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:12 pm to DieselTiger1
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Mathews z7 60-70lb RH 28.5 draw length. Has 1 year old winners choice string and cable, quad drop away rest, spot hogg it 7 deadly pins sight, Mathews arrow 5 quiver, Limbsaver stabilizer, Mathews wrist strap, Mathews slim grip.
What's it worth?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:24 pm to BRgetthenet
My Z7 is collecting dust, due to work. I loved it when it first came out, since then there are a few things I would change in my next one, the short axle to axle is nice for the stand, but it's so short the string angle is very exaggerated and shorter bows are harder to stabilize.
Every now and then I get an itch to buy a new one but can't justify it without using the one I have. If I were buy one today though it would be a Hoyt carbon spyder.
Every now and then I get an itch to buy a new one but can't justify it without using the one I have. If I were buy one today though it would be a Hoyt carbon spyder.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:30 pm to Citica8
Did you shoot a Hoyt before the Z7?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:39 pm to BRgetthenet
I bought the z7 in 2010 barely even broke out the rifle that year.
2 years ago I went to go shoot the Monster Chill-R just because I had the itch. Was very unimpressed, guy at Bowie said "since you're here want to shoot this new Hoyt" it's a damn good thing they only had the one they were using for a demo and it wasn't available to the public yet, because I'd have walked out the door with it.
2 years ago I went to go shoot the Monster Chill-R just because I had the itch. Was very unimpressed, guy at Bowie said "since you're here want to shoot this new Hoyt" it's a damn good thing they only had the one they were using for a demo and it wasn't available to the public yet, because I'd have walked out the door with it.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:48 pm to BRgetthenet
When I bought my z7 ( previously owned a PSE x-force ss) I went in to shoot a few different bows. Shot a bow tech, then a Hoyt, then the z7. After the z-7 there was no doubt.. that little PSE was probably the most accurate bow I have ever shot, but was slooooow..
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:09 pm to BRgetthenet
Z7s are great bows (like a Switchback XT with more speed) and I wouldn't hesitate to buy one if the price was right.
If you decide to look at the new Mathews bows you need to shoot an Xpedition Xcursion 6 or Obsession Defcon 6 before you buy one. IMO both have better draw cycles than the Halon although it's close. I prefer the grip on The Obsession followed by the Halon. I don't care for the grip on Xpedition bows. Where both Xpedition and Obsession will blow the Halon away is wall, valley, and speed. I wouldn't even consider a nocam. You can shoot the Halon 6 at 55lbs and the other two at 50lbs and get more speed than the nocam at 70lbs. Even though the nocam draws exceptionally well, it isn't going to draw at 70 as easy as the others at that much lighter weight. The other 3 bows set at lower weight will also be as, if not more, quiet with the same arrow.
If you decide to look at the new Mathews bows you need to shoot an Xpedition Xcursion 6 or Obsession Defcon 6 before you buy one. IMO both have better draw cycles than the Halon although it's close. I prefer the grip on The Obsession followed by the Halon. I don't care for the grip on Xpedition bows. Where both Xpedition and Obsession will blow the Halon away is wall, valley, and speed. I wouldn't even consider a nocam. You can shoot the Halon 6 at 55lbs and the other two at 50lbs and get more speed than the nocam at 70lbs. Even though the nocam draws exceptionally well, it isn't going to draw at 70 as easy as the others at that much lighter weight. The other 3 bows set at lower weight will also be as, if not more, quiet with the same arrow.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:01 am to BRgetthenet
Smoother draw & release. No cam whip.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:21 am to Raz4back
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Xpedition
quote:Where did these people come from?
Obsession
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:43 am to AlxTgr
They both contract Kevin Strother to design for them. Obsession has been around for a few years and made bows prior to using KS as a designer. The owner of the company became ill which led him to hook up with KS. They have since been bought by Arcus Hunting (who owns Trophy Taker, Dead Downwind, Tinks, etc.) but the original owner still runs day to day operations.
Strother is a huge dick and terrible business man, but he is an outstanding designer.
Strother is a huge dick and terrible business man, but he is an outstanding designer.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 9:49 am
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:50 am to Raz4back
quote:I almost mentioned him. No thanks.
They both contract Kevin Strother to design for them
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:16 am to AlxTgr
Meh, I felt the same because the guy is such a douche. After I was talked into shooting an Obsession I didn't give a shite who designed it, I had to have one. Shootability is on par with my Switchback XT, it's quieter, it has a huge valley, and I'm getting 305fps at 67 pounds with a 450 grain arrow.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:20 am to Raz4back
I deposed the guy in a lawsuit. I do kinda like him, and I suspect the products are fine. My problem is the fact that he never seems to stay put, and the history of his companies isn't that great. No way both of these stick around long. I am still surprised Elite is alive.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:33 am to AlxTgr
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No way both of these stick around long. I am still surprised Elite is alive.
I figure Xpedition will die out. Obsession was gaining market share before KS and they have the Arcus money backing them so I'm guessing they are going to maintain some level of success.
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I deposed the guy in a lawsuit
Over the K&K fiasco
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:34 am to Raz4back
A single vehicle collision actually
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