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re: Official AR-15 thread
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:41 pm to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:41 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:44 pm to TigerTatorTots
I am looking for a vertical forward grip but not sure what rail we have and the gun is at home. You know?
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:45 pm to brass2mouth
That FDE BCM is a nice looking rifle.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:51 pm to TigerTatorTots
Guys
I'm in the market for a new deer rifle and I really want the AR platform. Is 300 BO an acceptable product and must it be suppressed?
I'm in the market for a new deer rifle and I really want the AR platform. Is 300 BO an acceptable product and must it be suppressed?
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:22 pm to GREENHEAD22
2nd gen Midwest free float is what it's called. Not sure exactly what type of rail connection since I've never seen this type before
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:33 pm to TigerTatorTots
Should've come with a few Picatinny adapters for side and bottom mounts.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:43 pm to TigerTatorTots
It's just a picatinny rail system, but modular. You could theoretically purchase enough rail segments to make it a full quad rail if you wanted. They typically come with 2 shorter sections, and 1 longer one that includes a QD socket.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 9:50 pm to Soul Gleaux
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Soul Gleaux
what butt stock is that you have installed
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:47 pm to Carson123987
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I know, just a reminder
Carson, you are too far gone down the ARFCOM path to reasonably debate with you. All I'll say is this, that chart doesn't mean anything. It's an arbitrary list of features that may or may not be necessary to the proper function of a rifle. It was compiled by some ARFCOM wannabe operator. For instance, Rock River produces guns for actual operators and they fall 3rd on the list. Their guns are actually in the field performing and killing bad guys, yet they are mere garbage on the list. The AR game has turned into how much useless bullshite can we add to the rifle and manufacturing process to make these wannabe operators purchase more shite. The last time you purchased a hunting rifle/shotgun did you compile a similar list? I bet you didn't. You probably couldn't even tell me without looking it up what the barrel, bolt, firing pin, etc. are made of. I bet you have no idea if the barrel on your favorite deer slayer is HPT tested or if its MPI. Was it done as a batch or individually? Is the coating on the outside of your deer rifle just plain blued or parked, because if it's not nitrided or type III hard coat anodized it's likely to disintegrate in your hands before next season. You probably couldn't answer those questions for any other gun in your collection (pistols/rifles/shotguns), but when it comes you your AR all of those features are all of a sudden very important.
I'll bet the guy who made that chart as well as the people who hold it as religious doctrine couldn't even tell you off the top of their head if the bolt in their daily concealed carry is Carpenter 158, "the only acceptable metal for bolts". They trust their life to that gun everyday and probably couldn't answer if their daily concealed carry has half the features on the 'y' axis of that chart, which they deem absolutely necessary for a defense firearm. So, why does only the AR get this special attention?
If you're looking for bragging rights purchase a rifle towards the left on that chart. If you want a good plinking rifle or hog slayer purchase any of the rifles on the list (except maybe not olympic) and you will be happy.
Now, just so this post isn't just more useless banter from me in this thread, here is a picture of a .300BLK I somewhat recently built:
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:52 pm to Propagandalf
Posted on 7/26/13 at 10:56 pm to Crawdaddy
Figured I'd answer him for ya....
UBR Magpul.
UBR Magpul.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:04 pm to LSUmakemewanna
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UBR Magpul.
I need to shoot a rifle wearing one of these. It's a heavy stock, but a few people I respect are fans. They say the weight actually balances the rifle nicely.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:06 pm to Dodd
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Is 300 BO an acceptable product
I'd say yes, but only with supersonic loads. Supersonic loads have ballistics that are pretty similar to 7.62x39mm. When using subsonic loads, though, the ballistics more closely resemble .45ACP. LINK
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must it be suppressed
It certainly doesn't have to be, but it is a pretty impressive cartridge when suppressed.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:35 pm to Yat27
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I need to shoot a rifle wearing one of these. It's a heavy stock, but a few people I respect are fans. They say the weight actually balances the rifle nicely.
Yeah it's a beast of a stock, I don't mind the extra weight. Would like if it had a fatter cheek weld like the SOPMOD or EMOD but it's the best looking stock imo. For the price though it should come with both the upgraded butt pad and aluminum strike plate.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 8:22 am to Propagandalf
Did you copy and paste this from the ARFCOM forum or do you just regurgitate what you read over there?
Here are a few quotes I pulled from a forum I visit that is highly respected in the PMC and LE community.
Pat Rogers thoughts on DPMS:
Other random thoughts from LE/mil users:
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Carson, you are too far gone down the ARFCOM path to reasonably debate with you. All I'll say is this, that chart doesn't mean anything. It's an arbitrary list of features that may or may not be necessary to the proper function of a rifle. It was compiled by some ARFCOM wannabe operator. For instance, Rock River produces guns for actual operators and they fall 3rd on the list. Their guns are actually in the field performing and killing bad guys, yet they are mere garbage on the list. The AR game has turned into how much useless bullshite can we add to the rifle and manufacturing process to make these wannabe operators purchase more shite. The last time you purchased a hunting rifle/shotgun did you compile a similar list? I bet you didn't. You probably couldn't even tell me without looking it up what the barrel, bolt, firing pin, etc. are made of. I bet you have no idea if the barrel on your favorite deer slayer is HPT tested or if its MPI. Was it done as a batch or individually? Is the coating on the outside of your deer rifle just plain blued or parked, because if it's not nitrided or type III hard coat anodized it's likely to disintegrate in your hands before next season. You probably couldn't answer those questions for any other gun in your collection (pistols/rifles/shotguns), but when it comes you your AR all of those features are all of a sudden very important. I'll bet the guy who made that chart as well as the people who hold it as religious doctrine couldn't even tell you off the top of their head if the bolt in their daily concealed carry is Carpenter 158, "the only acceptable metal for bolts". They trust their life to that gun everyday and probably couldn't answer if their daily concealed carry has half the features on the 'y' axis of that chart, which they deem absolutely necessary for a defense firearm. So, why does only the AR get this special attention? If you're looking for bragging rights purchase a rifle towards the left on that chart. If you want a good plinking rifle or hog slayer purchase any of the rifles on the list (except maybe not olympic) and you will be happy.
Here are a few quotes I pulled from a forum I visit that is highly respected in the PMC and LE community.
Pat Rogers thoughts on DPMS:
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You're in MN. You should shitcan the dpms and go see Greg Sullivan at Defensive Edge- who produces excellent guns. In our observations over the 12-14 years, we have had multiple problems with those guns. Fortunately, we rarely see them anymore. There is probably a reason for that... S/F Pat sends www.eagtactical.com
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Be cautious of the chamber. While they will swear it is 5.56, they are almost universally 223 ("everyone wants 223", "A tight chamber is more accurate") Good luck S/F Pat sends www.eagtactical.com
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I have used a MOACK on a lot of dpms chambers- back when we used to see them. We got metal out of everyone of them S/F Pat sends www.eagtactical.com
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There are much better options. However, much depends on what your use will be. For casual plinking? Probably OK. Anything else- look elswhere. FWIW, we see very few of these in class anymore. The last time was 7 brand new ones from a SWAT team. Only one sorta' worked. S/F Pat sends www.eagtactical.com
Other random thoughts from LE/mil users:
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Our issue guns are DPMS guns and right out of the box they were failing left and right. Extractors, bolts, carriers, gas keys, mag-releases, selector switches, gas blocks, bolt catches were all going down in a burning wreck in the first weeks. I'm DXing everything DPMS in my home. I pretty dissapointed to have to depend on this thing but from the looks of it around here, if shite hits the fan, there will be plenty of Colts laying around.
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My agency bought four DPMS AR's for our team. Out of that four only one is servicable and luckily it's mine. The other three had such significant headspace problems that they are sitting in their cases in the back of the vault. I'll tell you this. In about two weeks I'll be buying a AR and it wont be a DPMS.
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Back before I knew better, I SBR'd a DPMS lower receiver. The pin holes are oversize, so the pins walk out after a few mags. Be sure you check the holes before you install the FCG. You will probably be fine using only the lower if the holes mic good. Just be damned sure you replace EVERY other part you possibly can with quality components.
This post was edited on 7/27/13 at 8:39 am
Posted on 7/27/13 at 8:33 am to BamaFan89
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Is 300 BO an acceptable product
Yes
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I'd say yes, but only with supersonic loads. Supersonic loads have ballistics that are pretty similar to 7.62x39mm. When using subsonic loads, though, the ballistics more closely resemble .45ACP. LINK
.45 ACP at 100 yards is a better analogy. I use mine for hogs and other unwanted pest. This will be my first year using it on deer since I now have a pistol lower and can take it out of state easily.
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It certainly doesn't have to be, but it is a pretty impressive cartridge when suppressed.
Pretty similar to the 30-30 unsuppressed.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 8:36 am to Carson123987
While I believe that the chart is dumb, it is true. Anybody that tries to argue against it is just upset that they bought an inferior gun. Anybody that tries to say that their AR will kill more hogs because of the chart has gone full retard.
PS, where is LWRC, Knights Armament, Wilson Combat, etc?
PS, where is LWRC, Knights Armament, Wilson Combat, etc?
Posted on 7/27/13 at 8:38 am to Yat27
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I need to shoot a rifle wearing one of these. It's a heavy stock, but a few people I respect are fans. They say the weight actually balances the rifle nicely.
Where you located? I have one on the rifle in your sig. Might swap lowers with you for a week if close enough.
Eta: swap lowers because mine is 300BLK.
This post was edited on 7/27/13 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/27/13 at 9:03 am to HTownTigerFan
Posted on 7/27/13 at 9:31 am to Propagandalf
God damn. I don't even know where to begin. You sound upset. I don't even post on AR15.com. Mostly retards on that site. Only other boards I post on are m4carbine and Snipershide. You have some good points in your drivel, but you're such a frickin snob which is why people laugh at you on here. You act like people that purchase high end firearms are dumbasses and inferior to you because you built something for half the price. That's bullshite.
I'd post stories about failures with less expensive rifles, but burge has saved me the trouble. It's worth buying high end stuff not only because of performance, but because of intangible things like customer service. Daniel Defense has the greatest customer service in the world, in the unlikely event that you need them. Can't speak well enough for them. High end companies will always treat you well, while you're just one of thousands with DPMS and bushmaster.
I'd post stories about failures with less expensive rifles, but burge has saved me the trouble. It's worth buying high end stuff not only because of performance, but because of intangible things like customer service. Daniel Defense has the greatest customer service in the world, in the unlikely event that you need them. Can't speak well enough for them. High end companies will always treat you well, while you're just one of thousands with DPMS and bushmaster.
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