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re: New Rifle/Optics or Old Rifle/Expensive Optics Help Me Decide
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:49 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:49 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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My Swaro is heads and shoulders better than either brands. It retails for around 1k now. However, lots of stores have huge sales on scopes too. I have not used a Zeiss but they get good reviews too.
I have a Zeiss 4.5-14 x 44 and it has been a fine scope. I'm really kicking myself for passing on the same scope that flashed up in a deal a few months back for 459.
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Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:55 pm to TigerDog83
I'll probably get a Zeiss next go around just because I do not have one but I do not expect it to beat my Swaro. Granted, those Zeiss are a lot cheaper too.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:42 pm to 633tiger
Put a $400 vxII on that 7600 and go with it.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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vxII
I would rather spend a bit more on a VX3 or spend the same amount on a better Nikon.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:06 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
so for just a couple hundred dollars you could put a VXII which is a 2 piece scope with subpar optics or for a couple hundred more the VXIII which is a one piece milled scope with better lens coatings... shouldn't even be a question. I personally think a VXIII is a great tough scope, but it cant scratch the balls of the german/austrian stuff.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:07 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
I have 3 Swaro's and 1 Zeiss Conquest. During the later part of the morning and early afternoon they are pretty equal in quality. I have judged them side by side in the blind. The Swarovski is much better in low light by a good bit. It depends where you hunt and if you want much better vision in low light. The last Swaro is a Z3 4-12 and paid right at $1000. I used to think they were not worth the extra money. In reality, they are worth every dime in my opinion
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:09 pm to HebertFest08
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so for just a couple hundred dollars you could put a VXII which is a 2 piece scope with subpar optics or for a couple hundred more the VXIII which is a one piece milled scope with better lens coatings... shouldn't even be a question. I personally think a VXIII is a great tough scope, but it cant scratch the balls of the german/austrian stuff.
I think that you are agreeing with me but I am not sure. However, I agree with the last sentence you said. So, I think I agree with you agreeing with me.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:11 pm to jaggedlp
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I have 3 Swaro's and 1 Zeiss Conquest.
OB baller
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During the later part of the morning and early afternoon they are pretty equal in quality. I have judged them side by side in the blind. The Swarovski is much better in low light by a good bit. It depends where you hunt and if you want much better vision in low light.
Thanks for the comparison. Still might get a Zeiss next just because I do not own one.
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The last Swaro is a Z3 4-12 and paid right at $1000.
The one I got was listed much higher but on sale for under $800.
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I used to think they were not worth the extra money. In reality, they are worth every dime in my opinion
Maybe I wont get that Zeiss. 
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:47 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
Good glass is always worth the money. A cheap rifle can be tuned and turned into something serviceable, cheap glass is just cheap glass.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:51 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
was aggreeing with you sammich.... was going off of the previous statement about the VXII. 
I also agree with having the 2 side by side, actually having 5 side by side. Leupold, Nikon,Swarovski,Zeiss and Schmidt/Bender.... its definitely worth doing and you will see a difference. S/B and Swarovski being the best... If you could find an older Leica 30mm tube from the early 2000s, its damn fine glass as well. If i remember correctly Leica quit making scopes??
I also agree with having the 2 side by side, actually having 5 side by side. Leupold, Nikon,Swarovski,Zeiss and Schmidt/Bender.... its definitely worth doing and you will see a difference. S/B and Swarovski being the best... If you could find an older Leica 30mm tube from the early 2000s, its damn fine glass as well. If i remember correctly Leica quit making scopes??
Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:10 pm to HebertFest08
Thanks guys -the Swarovski it is!!! I might even give the ole boy a bath before I mount a new girl on him. I hope the dirt is not what's holding his old arse together.
Luckily I've got plenty time to shop and compare before next season.
Luckily I've got plenty time to shop and compare before next season.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:17 pm to 633tiger
The Swaros can be found on sale quite often. Good idea on shopping around and getting a good idea for the market. Also, I find that some of my cheaper scopes are throw aways. Meaning that if I get rid of the gun or stop using it, I stopped using the scope. That wont happen with the Swaro.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:24 pm to 633tiger
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Thanks guys -the Swarovski it is!!!
Sounds great, but one word of caution, once you go big on optics you wont go back, and from that point on any optic you buy will high dollar, it is an expensive habit
Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:26 pm to Tigerpaw123
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you wont go back, and from that point on any optic you buy will high dollar, it is an expensive habit
True words.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:40 pm to Tigerpaw123
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It's an expensive habit
Mrs 633 will just have to get over it!!
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