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re: Monster spec caught in Corpus Christi

Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:27 am to
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:27 am to
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that's because the Louisiana limits are practically "if you can hook it, you can keep it". Also, south of Galveston, the daily limit on trout is 5.


bullshite. La's carrying capacity is much more, which means more specks and more competition for food but less room to grow. Keeping less fish in LA would make no difference to the sizes we see. It's all about the environment.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4066 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:34 am to
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that's because the Louisiana limits are practically "if you can hook it, you can keep it". Also, south of Galveston, the daily limit on trout is 5.

ah, someone from out of state that has more knowledge of Louisiana's fisheries than our own marine biologists...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:39 am to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:56 am to
Good stuff on that website.

Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16563 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:00 am to
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Goddamn, throw it back guys. Let that big bitch procreate


While I would probably turn her loose I cant blame somebody for keeping a legal fish. Every female trout has the capacity to grow that big. One breeder will not make much difference. However, if you're keeping a fish only for a mount I would encourage you to take measurements and release it. Replicas are probably better quality now than skin mounts.

Also as far as size limits and size I will be interested to see what happens to the trout population in Mississippi over the years as they have raised the limit to 15" for keeper trout.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 9:01 am
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
3918 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:16 am to
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Also as far as size limits and size I will be interested to see what happens to the trout population in Mississippi over the years as they have raised the limit to 15" for keeper trout.


You and me both....
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
4369 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:17 am to
La aims to get one spawn year out of a female, Tx tries to get two years out of one before harvest. Two different approaches by their fisheries departments, personally I'm glad I'm on the western end, nothing like cpr'n one 9+.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:21 am to
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La aims to get one spawn year out of a female, Tx tries to get two years out of one before harvest.

This makes little sense, if you're getting 2 spawning classes from a female, wouldn't you then surmise that Texas' numbers should be greater? And if there numbers are greater, wouldn't their inferior habitat be unable to handle the carrying capacity of that amount of fish, thus limiting the size of the ones that remain?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81634 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:34 am to
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This makes little sense, if you're getting 2 spawning classes from a female, wouldn't you then surmise that Texas' numbers should be greater?
Not necessarily. Food/habitat, etc.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
4369 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:40 am to
Why would you assume La has more trout than Tx? Pressure is apple and oranges, there are more guides in the average town along the middle coast than all of La combined. There are millions of more people within two hours of the Tx coast than La. The link above says La tries to get one spawn, I know from dealings with TPWD their goal is to get two spawns.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:23 am to
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Why would you assume La has more trout than Tx?


How do I know that you've never fished in Louisiana?
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
4369 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:15 pm to
Well since I lived in Louisiana from 92 until 2000 I'd say that statement is false. I can try and find hard numbers later since I have a bunch of TPWD data being on a coastal advisory committee for them and I admittedly don't know for sure but to just assume La has more trout because your limits are higher isn't very sound. As I said the pressure put on the Texas coast is night and day compared to La. There are over a 1000 guides within a 100 miles of Rockport Tx, for every guide boat out there you see 8 to 10 recreational boats so imagine the trout fishery needed to prosper under that kind of pressure.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3751 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:58 pm to
Beautiful trout and would love to catch one. The size has more to do with habitat than creel limits though.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4913 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:09 pm to
I've always been told one reason specks grow bigger in Texas is because of the hyper saline environment of Texas bays vs other areas. Especially Baffin, that sucker has a very high salinity level.

Would you agree that's one major contributing factor?

Comparing Louisiana's delta to Texas's bay system seems night and day. What management works in one doesn't necessarily work in the other due to the difference in environment.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16563 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:27 pm to
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I've always been told one reason specks grow bigger in Texas is because of the hyper saline environment of Texas bays vs other areas. Especially Baffin, that sucker has a very high salinity level.


Yuuuge factor in my opinion. Spawning fish love saline.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:28 pm to
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I've always been told one reason specks grow bigger in Texas is because of the hyper saline environment of Texas bays vs other areas. Especially Baffin, that sucker has a very high salinity level.

Would you agree that's one major contributing factor?

Comparing Louisiana's delta to Texas's bay system seems night and day. What management works in one doesn't necessarily work in the other due to the difference in environment.




Nailed it.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1832 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:37 pm to
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Management priorities, as set by recreational leadership, will determine whether the fishery is managed for liberal limits and smaller fish or restrictive creel limits and larger fish.


So the links is suggesting with a more conservative limit we would have larger fish?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:19 pm to
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However, if you're keeping a fish only for a mount I would encourage you to take measurements and release it. Replicas are probably better quality now than skin mounts.


My point exactly. And I don't blame the angler for keeping the fish. I'd just prefer to release it. Like throwing a bull red back.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1751 posts
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:12 am to
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I've always been told one reason specks grow bigger in Texas is because of the hyper saline environment of Texas bays vs other areas. Especially Baffin, that sucker has a very high salinity level.


I've heard it suggested that Baffin trout don't have to expend a lot of energy running back and forth having to find water with the right salinity.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 8:13 am
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