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re: MA Attorney General bans all new "Assault Weapons"

Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:29 pm to
That AG actually wrote this opinion piece that appears at the The Boston Globe website. It was linked in the article. ...

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The loophole in the Mass. assault weapons ban
By Maura Healey July 20, 2016

Orlando. Baton Rouge. Falcon Heights. Dallas. Baton Rouge again.

Five horrific headlines in five weeks. Each story unique in its circumstances, but bound by a common thread: human lives taken by a gun.

There are myriad issues underlying each of these tragedies: fear, racism, mistrust, hate. These are critical issues that we, as a country, have an obligation to honestly and forthrightly address. And they’re issues my office is working hard to tackle alongside our partners in the community, in law enforcement, and in government.

But there’s one issue that can be addressed right now — the proliferation of guns, particularly assault weapons.

Here in Massachusetts, 10,000 assault weapons were sold just in the last year — each one nearly identical to the rifle used to gun down 49 innocent people in Orlando. In the week after the Pulse nightclub massacre, sales of weapons strikingly similar to the Sig Sauer MCX used at Pulse jumped as high as 450 percent over the previous week — just in Massachusetts.

It’s no surprise the Orlando killer chose an AR-15 style assault rifle. It’s a weapon of war, originally created for combat, and designed to kill many people in a short amount of time with incredible accuracy. It’s in the same category as weapons chosen by killers in Newtown, Aurora, and San Bernardino. These are not weapons of self-defense. They are weapons used to commit mass murder. And they have no business being in civilian hands.

How in Massachusetts, then, home to some of the strongest gun laws in the country, do we allow people to buy these guns?

The gun industry has found a way to exploit our laws, a loophole of potentially horrific proportions. And it’s time we act.

The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans “copies or duplicates” of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a “copy” or “duplicate” weapon is. They market “state compliant” copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example, small tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon.

That will end now. On Wednesday, we are sending a directive to all gun manufacturers and dealers that makes clear that the sale of these copycat assault weapons is illegal in Massachusetts. With this directive, we will ensure we get the full protection intended when lawmakers enacted our assault weapons ban, not the watered-down version of those protections offered by gun manufacturers.

The directive specifically outlines two tests to determine what constitutes a “copy” or “duplicate” of a prohibited weapon. If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a “copy” or “duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts.

We recognize that most residents who purchased these guns in the past believed they were doing so legally, so this directive will not apply to possession of guns purchased before Wednesday. In the dozen years since the federal assault weapons ban lapsed, only seven states have instituted their own assault weapons ban. Many of those bans have been challenged (unsuccessfully) by the gun industry, and we anticipate our directive may be too. But our job is to enforce state laws and to keep people safe. This directive does both.

In the face of utter inaction by Congress, states have a duty to enact and enforce laws that protect people from gun violence. If Washington won’t use its power to get these guns off our streets, we will. Not only do we have the legal authority to do so, we have a moral obligation to do so.

Maura Healey is the attorney general of Massachusetts.


Boston Globe


Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:12 pm to




Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6811 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a “copy” or “duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts.


You silly, silly fricks.

Drank,
Unfortunately, they're NOT being stupid or ignorant about the specifics of a semi-auto's inner workings; they're being politically brilliant. They realize that if they continue to talk about the "evil assault rifle" and deceptively linking it to a law that makes ALL semi-automatic rifles illegal, they'll have accomplished by subterfuge what they've wanted to do all along-----start the road to outlawing all (or at least as many as possible) guns.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:23 pm to
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Im guessing Ruger Mini-14's are about to start selling like hot cakes, but only the wood stock ones. The black polymer ones are too dangerous...


They'll probably claim that .223 is an interchangeable part and thus banned.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 8:24 pm
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:45 pm to
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Seems the liberal states are moving one direction and conservative states are moving the other way...

I need to GTFO of California soon.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6211 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:44 pm to
I loved shooting mini 14s back in the early / mid 90s - we would shoot all damn day.


Good times
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:37 am to
Go read the comments on that article.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11877 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:47 am to
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Civil War?


I doubt it comes to that but if it did they would surely be outgunned since they are afraid of these scary rifles!

The curveball that's hardly ever talked about is that most military and law enforcement individuals are conservatives, by and large. And getting all of them to turn on their own citizenry would be quite difficult.

If another country/organization (like NATO) were to come in and try to take control... that's a different story...

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if MA or any other state wants to restrict gun sales that is their prerogative as long is it is constitutional which is for the courts to decide.


I agree.

Although in this case, one single person is able to basically force a law through without any holdups whatsoever. Sounds a bit like the move of a dictator but if it's within their state laws, let em have it.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12980 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:11 am to
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These are not weapons of self-defense. They are weapons used to commit mass murder



How many AR owners on this board that don't commit mass murder?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:36 am to
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How many AR owners on this board that don't commit mass murder?


There is an estimated 5+ million AR's in the US. There have been less than 100 used in mass murders. So less than 0.00002%
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7979 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:42 am to
Any firearm manufacturers in Massachusetts left?

Maybe they pull out of there too...They'd be welcome in the south and midwest...
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
795 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:01 pm to
It’s no surprise the Orlando killer chose an AR-15 style assault rifle. It’s a weapon of war (wrong)

originally created for combat, and designed to kill many people in a short amount of time with incredible accuracy (much better choices for accuracy).

It’s in the same category as weapons chosen by killers in Newtown, Aurora, and San Bernardino. These are not weapons of self-defense (can be very effective in self defense. They will learn this if they come to get mine).

They are weapons used to commit mass murder (when in the hand of a murderer, they don't kill alone).

And they have no business being in civilian hands (that's not how the constitution works).
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45797 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:07 pm to
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There is an estimated 5+ million AR's in the US.


I have seen a fiqure of 9 million estimate and that was before all the shootings this summer. It is the most popular rifle in America, by far...
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7979 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

How many AR owners on this board that don't commit mass murder?


Does murder of paper count?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:11 pm to
What the left has been saying about guns for years has become truth in most people's minds. I'd say that 99% of the country thinks there is some sort of gun show loophole. That same 99% couldn't tell you what an assault rifle is, and would call a bolt gun with a black stock an assault rifle. Most of them think "assault rifles" shouldn't be in the hands of regular citizens, but their only answer for why cops can have them is, "because they are police". More than half think you shouldn't be able to concealed carry, but cops should be able to because they are cops. When you tell them the average response time is 10 minutes (an hour plus in New Orleans), it goes in one ear and out of the other.

If something is repeated enough by people of authority (all politicians and every "news" station), everyone believes it, no matter if it's true or not. It's one of the tactics the left uses that works extremely well.


I got in a heated argument with my mom last week about CCW, and she got upset enough that she told me to leave because I was arguing based on facts and logic, and her arguments were based on feelings. She's been a Republican her entire life, but wrong information has been beaten into her head since the Brady bill.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 12:17 pm
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11877 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:19 pm to
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Any firearm manufacturers in Massachusetts left?


Smith and Wesson is in Springfield, MA.

They need to pull the frick out, like yesterday.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12980 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:21 pm to
I can honestly say I don't know the real definition of "assault rifle". I can say the same about sniper rifle. In my own humble opinion, a sniper rifle is a rifle used by a real life sniper. What separates a "sniper rifle " from my Model 700?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:26 pm to
Nothing. Any rifle, except for SBRs, can be called a sniper rifle IMHO. I can ring a 3" plate all day long at 100 with my .22LR. Sniper rifle? Yup.


IIRC, an assault rifle is anything with a magazine and selective fire (single shot and burst or full auto)
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12980 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:27 pm to
Exactly
Posted by Murtown
OT Ballerville
Member since Sep 2014
1607 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:52 pm to
If only Louisiana would have had this law Gavin Long would have never been able to kill those officers.
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