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re: Looking for some opionions on TC..

Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:17 pm to
I can take up to a 600 yard shot where I hunt however, I never shoot past 300.
Posted by hehatedrew
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:18 pm to
Get the .35 in Encore Pro Hunter. You won't regret it...
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:19 pm to
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I just think for the money I get more getting the TC.



no, you get less with more money with the tc.
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:21 pm to
Chad:

The TC is $70 more than the Tikka T3 and the same as a Remington 700.. How do you figure I get less for more money? I'm getting less rifle because it only holds one bullet at a time. I could probably crack the barrel and reload just a second or two slower than bolting one.
Posted by hehatedrew
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:23 pm to
True. If you don't shoot over 300 yards you won't ever need anything other than the .35, but it's really easy to change barrels if you wanted to. Oh, and it's just money
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:25 pm to
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Chad:

The TC is $70 more than the Tikka T3 and the same as a Remington 700.. How do you figure I get less for more money? I'm getting less rifle because it only holds one bullet at a time. I could probably crack the barrel and reload just a second or two slower than bolting one.


Bolt action, you don't have to take your sight out of the scope or move the rifle. That's what they are built for. Cracking the rifle, reloading and setting up shot again... yea, not two seconds. The bolt action rifle gives you a ton more for the rifle than a single shot rifle.
This post was edited on 11/23/10 at 3:25 pm
Posted by hehatedrew
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:29 pm to
It's a rifle. Put the crosshairs on the deer and shoot. It's not hard at all. It's actually unfair if you think about it. Just don't miss. That's for kids...
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:31 pm to
bolt action also comes in handy for shooting coyote's running across the field and shite. Or coming out the woods with a cougar on your tail.
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:32 pm to
Well, yeah, I don't really think about that when choosing a rifle for deer hunting though. All I am saying is that the TC .35 is a great gun if you hunt in MS.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:33 pm to
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Well, yeah, I don't really think about that when choosing a rifle for deer hunting though.


well you should when you want one rifle to be your end all be all.
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:35 pm to
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well you should when you want one rifle to be your end all be all.

You are putting some serious absolutes on my life.

I will still have my old 30-06 that will get sent to a good gun smith to try and fix the seating issue I'm currently having.
Posted by hehatedrew
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:38 pm to
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well you should when you want one rifle to be your end all be all.


When I'm looking for a rifle for deer, I'm not worried about whether or not I will be able to shoot twice at a running coyote. If a buck walks out that is big enough to take, put the gun up and shoot. Just don't miss, it's not hard. If you do, the deer will either run off or stand there. If he stands there, you will have enough time to put another bullet in, or if you have a bolt action, you will have time to bolt. It's not a hard concept. FWIW, I shoot an A Bolt .280, but I also have the TC. I plan on selling the .280 soon bc I've come to realize that the TC is all that I need...
This post was edited on 11/23/10 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:39 pm to
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When I'm looking for a rifle for deer, I'm not worried about whether or not I will be able to shoot twice at a running coyote. If a buck walks out that is big enough to take, put the gun up and shoot. Just don't miss, it's not hard. If you do, the deer will either run off or stand there. If he stands there, you will have enough time to put another bullet in, or if you have a bolt action, you will have time to bolt. It's not a hard concept. FWIW, I shoot an A Bolt .280, but I also have the TC. I plan on selling the .280 soon bc I've come to realize that the TC is all that I need...


How do I put this... all your theories are bullshite.

There.
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:42 pm to
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When I'm looking for a rifle for deer, I'm not worried about whether or not I will be able to shoot twice at a running coyote. If a buck walks out that is big enough to take, put the gun up and shoot. Just don't miss, it's not hard. If you do, the deer will either run off or stand there. If he stands there, you will have enough time to put another bullet in, or if you have a bolt action, you will have time to bolt.

This is my exact thoughts
Posted by hehatedrew
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:42 pm to
How do I put this...
I couldn't care less what your opinion of my opinion is.
I know what I've accomplished as a hunter and I know what will and won't work. Please, tell me what great theories you have.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:44 pm to
My Dad has that gun in a 7mm WSM and I love it, it's his favorite gun out of close to 30 rifles(obviously not primitive weapon legal).
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:47 pm to
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How do I put this...
I couldn't care less what your opinion of my opinion is.
I know what I've accomplished as a hunter and I know what will and won't work. Please, tell me what great theories you have.


Your theory is that 2nd shots are not useful and are hardly needed and when needed, you have more than ample enough time to do the whole crack the barrel and re load deal and the truth is there are an infinite amount of scenarios that happen and all of which are not identical to another. The function of the bolt action is to quickly reload without ever taking focus off the object which can not be done with a single shot reload. End of story. You want to ignore this and say "oh i don't miss and i put cross hairs on animal and Kill"... well frick, do that with the bolt action. That doesn't make one fricking argument in favor of a single shot.
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:47 pm to
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My Dad has that gun in a 7mm WSM and I love it

Is it a Pro Hunter?
What is the kick like on that 7mm?
The .35 Whelen is going to be a little less kick than a 300 or 7mm
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:49 pm to
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You want to ignore this and say "oh i don't miss and i put cross hairs on animal and Kill"... well frick, do that with the bolt action. That doesn't make one fricking argument in favor of a single shot.

Um, aren't we talking about the .35 in TC Encore? Wasn't that the point of the thread? It's great in MS, end of story. It's the only gun you will need all year. Yeah, I don't miss. I'm sorry that you need so many shots to kill your coyotes when you're deer hunting. I would help you but I can't give you a shooting lesson over the internet...
Posted by TigerDeacon
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Posted on 11/23/10 at 3:51 pm to
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Please, tell me what great theories you have.


I'm going to tell some of my great theories. Not that this pissing match is any of my business, but because I am bored and waiting on someone to call me back.

Personally, I have a distrust of the accurace of weapons in which you are switching out the barrels. They may be super accurate, but just seems like you would have to sight in the rifle after every change. I don't have that much time.

Secondly, I prefer a purpose built rifle. They seem to be more usefully for the type of hunting for which they are made. Kind of like the phrase, "jack of all trades, master of none". For example, while I know my .45-70 will kill a deer, there are some of my stands where hunting with one is impractical. I can hunt all my stands with a .30.06. However, if I'm having to go into a thicket after something, I prefer my 30-30 lever action with open sights as I don't want to hit my scope on limb.

Third, I prefer the ability to have multiple shots to having a single shot. Yeah, a single shot is sufficent 99% of the time, but more is better . . . and especially better for that 1%.
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