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Longer Recreational Snapper Season = No Snapper in restaurants
Posted on 2/7/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 2/7/16 at 9:20 pm
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Cliff notes for this garbage just published on NOLA.com
1. Commercial fishing is an important industry in LA. (YES)
2. Restaurants employ a lot of people in Louisiana. (YES)
3. The Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act (MSA) has helped prevent over fishing and ensured that depleted stocks were rebuilt.(YES)
4. Amending MSA to allow states to manage Red Snapper would destroy the commercial fishing industtry and you won'be able to get red snapper in restaurants. (?????)
This quote is great.
"This could prompt unsustainable overfishing by private anglers and set a dangerous precedent where states would have little incentive to be stricter than their neighbor."
Cliff notes for this garbage just published on NOLA.com
1. Commercial fishing is an important industry in LA. (YES)
2. Restaurants employ a lot of people in Louisiana. (YES)
3. The Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act (MSA) has helped prevent over fishing and ensured that depleted stocks were rebuilt.(YES)
4. Amending MSA to allow states to manage Red Snapper would destroy the commercial fishing industtry and you won'be able to get red snapper in restaurants. (?????)
This quote is great.
"This could prompt unsustainable overfishing by private anglers and set a dangerous precedent where states would have little incentive to be stricter than their neighbor."
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Posted on 2/7/16 at 9:42 pm to voros79
quote:
Haley Bittermann is the corporate executive chef and director of operations for the Ralph Brennan Restaurant Group in New Orleans.
Looks like someone needs to organize a boycott of all Brennan Restaurant Group restaurants.
Ralph Brennan group restaurants
Posted on 2/8/16 at 7:03 am to Whatafrekinchessiebr
I say we organize a boycott of all seafood restaurants who support this bullshite.
The two douchbags who wrote that article deserve an arse whipping.
The two douchbags who wrote that article deserve an arse whipping.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 7:28 am to bhtigerfan
I don't go to seafood restaurants and order snapper
I go to my freezer to order snapper
I go to my freezer to order snapper
Posted on 2/8/16 at 7:44 am to voros79
Screw them and the horse they rode in on. What a load of crap red snapper management is a sore subject with me.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:38 am to voros79
quote:
Responsible, sustainable commercial fishing allows for a healthier, fish-filled ocean for everyone.
This is literally one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Every old timer I talk to will tell me awesome stories about fishing back in the day and it almost always ends with "but that was before commercial fishing".
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:45 am to voros79
Has anyone watched the show Big Fish Texas on NatGeo? These commercial fricks are hauling up 15,000 lbs of snapper in a day. and the recreational guys are the bad guys. what a load of shite.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:48 am to stoms
That's why they said responsible. They're not saying "commercial fishing is better than no commercial fishing". They're saying " if we do this responsibly, it will be better"
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:59 am to jimbeam
But recreational fishermen are not the irresponsible parties.
big fish Texas
These dudes are reeling up strings of 50 fish at a time
big fish Texas
These dudes are reeling up strings of 50 fish at a time
quote:
Big Fish, Texas: Deckhand Down
Hans takes on the monumental task of bringing in a 15,000lb haul,
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:57 am to Motorboat
Plus at least 30% of the time what they say is "snapper" in a restaurant is basa, tilapia, etc. Pay for high dollar snapper and what you are served is a mystery.....
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:02 am to OntarioTiger
quote:Those are 3 very different fish.
"snapper" in a restaurant is basa, tilapia,
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:15 am to AlxTgr
Alx - that is the point at least 30% of what they sell as snapper in restaurants is not snapper they substitute a lower priced fish ... and unsuspecting public doesn't know the difference. Restaurants lie to their customers all the time, just like putting 4 roses in the high dollar bourbon bottle at the bar ....
With the quota in place there is plenty of snapper for the restaurants if they want to get it, many are too lazy to search it out
With the quota in place there is plenty of snapper for the restaurants if they want to get it, many are too lazy to search it out
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:52 pm to OntarioTiger
that's not even close to being true
basa is a catfish substitute and tilapia is a freshwater whitefish
in many instances sheepshead can be passed off as "snapper" but not "red snapper". the same way black drum can be credibly sold as "redfish" as they are for all intents and purposes identical on the plate
but nobody is selling basa or tilapia as red snapper
basa is a catfish substitute and tilapia is a freshwater whitefish
in many instances sheepshead can be passed off as "snapper" but not "red snapper". the same way black drum can be credibly sold as "redfish" as they are for all intents and purposes identical on the plate
but nobody is selling basa or tilapia as red snapper
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:24 am to cgrand
"Gulf red snapper — one of America's most prized food fish"
What a crock of shite that article is! Red Snapper is not even on the top 5 list of food fish, thay want us to believe it is by making such a big deal about it, there are approx. 30 commercial fisherman in the Gulf that have been alloted 50% of the total catch and they are making millions by selling off catch shares to hard working fisherman while they never leave the dock. How is it right to be given rights to a public resource and then turn around and sell it off to the highest bidder? Sorry Rant over!
What a crock of shite that article is! Red Snapper is not even on the top 5 list of food fish, thay want us to believe it is by making such a big deal about it, there are approx. 30 commercial fisherman in the Gulf that have been alloted 50% of the total catch and they are making millions by selling off catch shares to hard working fisherman while they never leave the dock. How is it right to be given rights to a public resource and then turn around and sell it off to the highest bidder? Sorry Rant over!
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:10 pm to Sea Hoss
CGRAND:
See below – while more educated folks in near the Gulf coast may be able to tell – once you get away from the coast not many could tell. Subsititution is rampant and I expect it where I live in the NE, something that says red snapper more often is not.
LINK
LINK
Oceana used genetic testing to prove that among other dubious swaps, tilapia and tilefish are often passed off as the more expensive red snapper. Other cited examples were tilapia posing as catfish, escolar sold as white tuna, while an Asian fish called pangasius (or ponga) is routinely passed off as everything from catfish to sole to flounder to grouper.
To get back to this rant - I wouldnt believe much a restauranteur says about fish
See below – while more educated folks in near the Gulf coast may be able to tell – once you get away from the coast not many could tell. Subsititution is rampant and I expect it where I live in the NE, something that says red snapper more often is not.
LINK
LINK
Oceana used genetic testing to prove that among other dubious swaps, tilapia and tilefish are often passed off as the more expensive red snapper. Other cited examples were tilapia posing as catfish, escolar sold as white tuna, while an Asian fish called pangasius (or ponga) is routinely passed off as everything from catfish to sole to flounder to grouper.
To get back to this rant - I wouldnt believe much a restauranteur says about fish
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