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Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:34 am to bigolecatfish
quote:it kinda is when the question is "do you need money to survive or not?"
Right, because everything is black and white.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:39 am to ShakeyTurtle
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Everyone thinks farmers are the big dogs in the market. "Look at the prices of soybeans and corn. Man, wish I was a farmer". Farmers are the bottom feeders yet
Bingo...the real issue isn't the farmers IMHO, it's your Cargill, Louis Dreyfus, etc...they are the big movers and shakers.
They are the ones that influence international trading policy and national policy for that matter.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:39 am to tiger91
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hams it up as in is BS or sums it up as in you perhaps agree?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:40 am to stewie
None of yal "farmer" are answering the questions I put forward or the info I posted.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:43 am to CarRamrod
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Right, because everything is black and white. it kinda is when the question is "do you need money to survive or not?"
It's only black/white when you're ignorant on the subject.
The more you dig into and analyze the situation, the more you realize the difficulty of balancing the weight and importance of the competing issues.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:43 am to GREENHEAD22
I don't know anything about trees 
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:43 am to GREENHEAD22
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None of yal "farmer" are answering the questions I put forward or the info I posted.
refresh it for me please...and I'll try to answer it
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:48 am to stewie
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The more you dig into and analyze the situation, the more you realize the difficulty of balancing the weight and importance of the competing issues.
This can be said for any issue and the propaganda that goes into both sides.
Usually scare tactics like soaring prices, etc. are necessary to keep out dated govt. policies in place. Usually those who pay their congressman the most (lobby) end up getting the sweeter deal. It's the American way.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:48 am to Choirboy
Add me to the scumbag list I guess. I have had acreage in the grass program for years. What I want to know is how anybody can call it welfare? I still have to work the land keeping it cut and sprayed at my expense and my reward for that is a minimal payment. I could lease the land or row crop it and come out ahead. As soon as my contract is up it I will use it for pasture land.
I just can't help but think that most people are hypocrites when they talk about hand outs to farmers. If a natural disaster comes through your area are you going to deny help from FEMA? If drought hits my crop I am absolutely going to file it on my crop insurance cause I have to sign up and PAY for the insurance.
When you say your tax dollars are going to the farmer do you ever think about how many tax dollars the farmer pays? I can promise you we pay more taxes than somebody working a 40 hour a week job. Here is something that you might find interesting this shows how many farms in each state have actually received subsidies it might surprise you LINK
I just can't help but think that most people are hypocrites when they talk about hand outs to farmers. If a natural disaster comes through your area are you going to deny help from FEMA? If drought hits my crop I am absolutely going to file it on my crop insurance cause I have to sign up and PAY for the insurance.
When you say your tax dollars are going to the farmer do you ever think about how many tax dollars the farmer pays? I can promise you we pay more taxes than somebody working a 40 hour a week job. Here is something that you might find interesting this shows how many farms in each state have actually received subsidies it might surprise you LINK
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:04 pm to angus1838
The problem with subsidy payments is that most farmers don't collect. A hell of a lot of money is going to a few farms, which is pretty ridiculous.
Only 10% of farms in this state get direct subsidies. It is welfare.
I don't think people have a problem with welfare anymore, so it's probably not worth arguing.
Only 10% of farms in this state get direct subsidies. It is welfare.
I don't think people have a problem with welfare anymore, so it's probably not worth arguing.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:16 pm to jimbeam
Not about the trees beam and really it was just to the delta farmers bc you can really only plant one crop. I am talking about for ten years planting rice/cotton "the biggest offenders it appears" taking a loss and getting subsides instead of planting profitable crops.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:17 pm to stewie
Go back two pages and look at the links I posted.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:18 pm to GREENHEAD22
what i'll say is if I was in the situation of making my own money or taking the gubments, you can about guess which one I'd do. 
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:21 pm to jimbeam
I know buddy I am not hating on yea and if I had to guess most farmers on here are honest and try to plant the best and most profitable crop. However looking at those links you have to admit there is a bunch out there that aren't and are taking some serious Gov $.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:22 pm to GREENHEAD22
Ain't arguing that.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:54 pm to jimbeam
I've indirectly learned a good bit from this thread
Family property is enrolled in Crp. I think this is year 6.
I spotted a couple mallards on it a few weeks ago with a hooded merganser.
Family property is enrolled in Crp. I think this is year 6.
I spotted a couple mallards on it a few weeks ago with a hooded merganser.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:16 pm to CarRamrod
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$4.5 billion-a-year farm subsidy called direct payments, which are paid to farmers whether they farm or not.
are you fricking serious?
They are being cut out of the farm bill.
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Right, because everything is black and white.
it kinda is when the question is "do you need money to survive or not?"
No not currently. Thats why they are being cut out.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 1/30/14 at 2:27 pm to stewie
quote:lol ok mr brilliant farmer.
It's only black/white when you're ignorant on the subject.
The more you dig into and analyze the situation, the more you realize the difficulty of balancing the weight and importance of the competing issues.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 4:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Usually scare tactics like soaring prices, etc. are necessary to keep out dated govt. policies in place. Usually those who pay their congressman the most (lobby) end up getting the sweeter deal. It's the American way.
But seriously, direct payments are being cut and I think it's for the best.
There are some conservation plans certainly worth keeping...there are some that aren't.
There are two in particular that my farm participates in. We were already committed to the cultural practices in the plan, those practices were the most efficient way to do things...all we had to do was sign up for them.
It was almost like free cash. T
hat being said, there are about 4 other farms near us that switched their practice to receive grant money...and now they are committed to more environmentally sounds farming practices.
They couldn't have afforded to make that switch w/o the grant money...so in a way it does make a substantial difference.
Crop insurance, an absolute must to keep American farms alive. You could go from a millionaire to broke with one simple freeze/storm.
It's hard enough for a small/young farmer to get started, w/o crop insurance, it would likely be impossible.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 4:16 pm
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