re: Lena Lagoon in Hopedale gated off?

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Right or wrong there is a small chance the whole thing blows up in their face.

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The chance this DOES blow up in their face is much greater than people know. Greater chance now than is has been is at least a decade.

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Just because you disagree with the laws doesn't mean you should justify breaking them.

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Again with the hierarchy of trespassing. You're stepping on your own dick here because there are places that are impossible to fish without trespassing to some extent.

Four Horse Lake, the Pen and Delacroix's Little Lake are all privately owned. Can we agree that these places fall towards the bottom of the trespassing hierarchy because of their popularity? Or should the sheriffs office write every single boat that accesses those areas a ticket?

You can't have it both ways.

One thing for certain. Not a soul alive has written permission to leave Bayou Terre Boeufs and cross overinto Bayou Gentilly. So it goes way deeper than simply agreeing or disagreeing with the how the law is written.

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The problem starts and ends with the trespassing enforcement. While you may be able to press charges for someone fishing in your pond, someone else may not because of the long term implications of doing so.

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I don't disagree with this, but it's disregarding the bigger issue. The problem starts with the differentiation between fishing and hunting. If I own or lease land, I have every right to post that land and enforce trespassing violations. If you're coming into my duck pond and building a bigass blind on my land, I think you should be arrested. If I own or lease land surrounding a duck pond, I have no right to enforce trespassing re: fishing in the duck pond. To me, that's navigable water because you can get there in your boat. If you want to come in there and fish while I'm shooting ducks, you and I are probably going to have words, but I don't think that should be illegal.

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The way I view my leases to be written is that I have the Sole rights to the duck hunting and nothing else. I can't nor should I stop someone from fishing my ponds. This is where my argument before if it's a problem with no good answer. Because I can chain off my ponds and have no downside except that the local fisherman hate me or I can not chain it and have people overpressuring my ponds all week long. Again I will reiterate the only good win win answer is that the illegal hunting of private property is enforced and condemned to the point that no one ever wants to be caught hunting my property.

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You and I would get along fine. It's a policy issue, and I recommend EVERYONE write their legislators and express concern over this issue.

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Wait...what?

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Sorry if that wasn't clear, but the navigable waters issue can only be solved on a policy level. We can't keep relying on a map from 248 B.C. to determine what is navigable and what is not. The only way to fix that is to get your legislators involved.

eta: Also, get to work and stop trolling my posts

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Why? I could say the same about hardwoods. You're making no sense at all.

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There is no good answer to the question you're asking. It boils down to philosophy and doing what is right to protect our resources from exploitation.

We are here for only a very short time. It's our duty to protect these wild places for the ones who come after we are gone.

A friend of mine likes to quote Roosevelt quite often. I'll share it because I think it's applicable.

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"Defenders of the short-sighted men who in their greed and selfishness will, if permitted, rob our country of half its charm by their reckless extermination of all useful and beautiful wild things sometimes seek to champion them by saying the 'the game belongs to the people.' So it does; and not merely to the people now alive, but to the unborn people. The 'greatest good for the greatest number' applies to the number within the womb of time, compared to which those now alive form but an insignificant fraction. Our duty to the whole, including the unborn generations, bids us restrain an unprincipled present-day minority from wasting the heritage of these unborn generations. The movement for the conservation of wild life and the larger movement for the conservation of all our natural resources are essentially democratic in spirit, purpose, and method."

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Why? I mean that as objectively as possible

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What you are saying seems inconsistent to me. I get your point about building a blind, but what if no blind is built, but I just shoot ducks next to you out of my boat?

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I do not advocate privatization of marsh water.

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But not all marsh water is the same. No one wishes to privatize marsh water that was navigable in 1812. Private canals in the marsh should be every bit as private as one in Caddo Parish.

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What you are saying seems inconsistent to me. I get your point about building a blind, but what if no blind is built, but I just shoot ducks next to you out of my boat?

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We'll have to agree to disagree, but more or less yes. I lease the land for hunting purposes. I do not lease the water. To me, that is the only way to reconcile the old map with the new way. We can't just say "I lease the land for hunting so GTFO of my pond," because the we open a can of worms that allows a whole lot of the marsh to be privatized.

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"navigatable waterways"

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Again, that is meaningless in La.