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Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:16 pm
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:16 pm
I want to get a radio for emergency comms, weather, shtf, just seeing whats going on around me, if i break my legs deep in the woods... Whatever else you can think of.

I dont know shite about this stuff. Ideas?
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:32 pm to
For land, Cellphone is your best bet, on the water you would use a VHF radio.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38739 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:49 pm to
Go HAM or go home.

I'm not into it, but my buddy is and he says in the event of an EMP attack those are the only radios that will work.

Look up HAM radios on google. There is a whole network of private citizens who still use them.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:07 pm to
My CB @ 35w would listen and talk around 15 miles normally. On a really good day, 30. Sometimes I'd randomly pick up stuff from around the country also. Amped is another story.

You want a stationary setup or mobile?

They do make small CB radios that are basically just a microphone that you hook up in your truck.
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:10 pm to
lookin at HAM radios now, looks pretty cool for preparedness and as a hobby. didn't realize this, but they have handheld ones as well as ones for your home, pretty cool
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7983 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

My CB @ 35w would listen and talk around 15 miles normally. On a really good day, 30. Sometimes I'd randomly pick up stuff from around the country also. Amped is another story.

You want a stationary setup or mobile?

They do make small CB radios that are basically just a microphone that you hook up in your truck.



I wouldn't advertise 35W CB on an open forum. Legal limit on a CB is 4W.

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:19 pm to
This is where I got my shite GI Joe's

You're supposed to have a license to run HAM IIRC. The 10m ones also allow you to get on the regular CB channels. I think Ranger and Galaxy are the good ones
quote:

I wouldn't advertise 35W CB on an open forum
IDGAF really. I've done much worse stuff than use too much power on a CB radio in my life. Mine has been sitting in the closet since I sold the POS Ford. The Mexicans and blacks run like 20kW
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18384 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:22 pm to
Work wants me to get involved witht he HAM Radio team. We have HAM Radios setup and a team in place for disasters. He gave me the study guide and other info to look over. Maybe one day I will
Posted by MaroonOldCrow
CSRA, GA
Member since Apr 2012
268 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:29 pm to
Ham is the way to go. You'll be able to customize to what kind of coverage you want: local, regional, continental, worldwide, outer space. Be prepared to drop some cash for the gear, though.

A few points:

- NOT EMP proof unless it's an old tube-driven, non-solid state rig.

- Yes, you have to pass a test, but it's ridiculously easy. Actually, there are three license classes: Technician, General, and Extra. You're a bit limited with what you can do with the Tech license; if all you are concerned with is local area, Tech is fine. If you want to go beyond that, upgrade to General. Extra class is nice to have/bragging rights, but not really necessary. There are a lot of free practice tests online; I know QRZ.com has them, there are others.
EDIT: The Tech and General are ridiculously easy. The Extra is a PITA unless you have great rote-memorization skills or a BSEE.

- Nice feature about having an Amateur Radio license: you can legally drive around listening to public service (PD/FD/etc). Your radio is a transceiver, not a scanner; also, given that hams do a lot of emergency/disaster communications, there are usually carve-outs in local laws to allow it.

I've been a ham since '87, so let me know what questions you have.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:37 pm to
Plus you can get a cool license plate
Posted by MaroonOldCrow
CSRA, GA
Member since Apr 2012
268 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Plus you can get a cool license plate



That's debatable.


The ones they issue in Tennessee are pretty sweet, since they don't say "Amateur Radio" or "Ham Radio" on them with some goofy graphic. It's just your FCC call sign on the same "Emergency" plate that they issue to Rescue Squad, EMTs, EMA, etc for use on their personal vehicles.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:53 pm to
The ones here say "HAM OPERATOR" with the call sign
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 4:30 pm to
SOB's are destroying this country quicker than a Bat can frick, and I'm sposed to worry about a CB trowing over 4 watts?
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

For land, Cellphone is your best bet


Right up until a hurricane comes and knocks out all the power. Cell towers will run for a little while, now that most of them have generators, but they will go down without fuel supply.

When Katrina hit, I was working at a hospital on the Northshore. We had a HEAR radio, cellphones, internet, landlines and Sat phones. Once the power was out, it took maybe a day for all cell coverage to disappear. The HEAR radio didn't work at all, landlines and Internet were trashed, and Sat phones were virtually useless unless you could find just the right place to stand to talk. Forget about sitting in your office or walking around.

The HAM operators in the area saved our asses by relaying messages to the powers that be.

I became a HAM shortly after that.

LC
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:29 pm to
You can do really well with a 4W CB if you set it up right. I had a Wilson 5000 on the roof of my old truck that was all professionally installed and I could receive anything. I could reach a few miles down the interstate on any day. I wish I had room in my car for one. The old one caught NOAA weather stations which was cool as frick in hurricanes.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7983 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:47 pm to
I don't care what you did or didn't do. All I know is you don't want the guys in the gray vans rolling up and issuing you a ticket or taking your stuff.

10M can be modified illegallyto get 11M (CB band).

Yeah the Mexicans in Mexico run a LOT of power...but the FCC can't ruin their stuff. The dudes on the Superbowl (Channel 6) run plenty of power too...

Galaxy's are hard to find. Rangers have to be modified.

Yes, you have to have a license to run amateur setup.

Personally, I'd never get an amateur radio license...Why? If you piss someone off on the road..and they look at your tags...they can easily get your address...qrz.com unless you have a PO Box.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:57 pm to
I think mine is a Galaxy 959 and I had a Wilson 1000 on the roof. I had a ram mount in front of the console. Pretty nice little setup that I used every day. I'd have to do some serious thinking to fit it in my new truck
Posted by MaroonOldCrow
CSRA, GA
Member since Apr 2012
268 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Personally, I'd never get an amateur radio license...Why? If you piss someone off on the road..and they look at your tags...they can easily get your address...qrz.com unless you have a PO Box.



You realize there's no requirement to get the tags, right?
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7983 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:32 am to
Yep. As an amateur radio operator myself...I know. That's just the reason I wouldn't get one.

People were just saying how cool it is to have one...I was just saying the negative side of the statement.
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 7:33 am to
I've seen some handheld ham radios, would those be a good starting point? regarding the licensing, if I were to just get one and piddle around and see what I can pick up, I don't need a license correct? only to broadcast?

I do want to broadcast eventually though, so I plan on getting a license.

but lets say I have a ham handheld radio and some shite goes down tomorrow and I need to get in touch with people, assuming I have the proper licenses, how would I even find them on the radio?

lets say there was a major weather event hitting our state, a hurricane, where would I go on the radio to find out about warnings and what not?
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