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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by atom1505
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:06 pm
Hey OB. I've always wanted a soft top Wrangler, and I'm looking at making that happen. In before Jeeps are money pits/death wobble/etc., I know. It's just something I've always wanted and I'm finally at a financially stable enough point in my life to try to get one. It's not going to be a daily driver. Just a toy. I'd probably never even keep the doors or top on it.

My question to you Jeep guys is this. What should I be looking at price-wise? I'm not looking for anything nice. Just an older 2 door (preferably 4.0L) with a softop in good shape. I also want to get an automatic so my fiancee can drive it when she wants. I don't mind doing some work to it (audio, bumpers, etc.), but I'd like it to come with a 3"-5" lift and be mechanically sound, and I don't want a note. Would it be possible to get a late 90s/early 2000's model for around $5000-$6000 in good shape?
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:08 pm to
soft tops are cheap, can always add yourself.

i'd prefer finding a stock jeep, then doing lift yourself, you know jeep should be in better condition not having been lifted already.

other than that, i got nuffin.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:13 pm to
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early 2000's model for around $5000-$6000 in good shape?


you would be better off in the 6500 to 8000 range on finding a good 4.0 Auto ( you want a 03-06 if you are going auto, if possible)

look for a jeep with no upgrades, first. you will spend more on the upgrades combined, but typically upgraded jeeps have more wear and tear.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:18 pm to
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I'd like it to come with a 3"-5" lift and be mechanically sound


That's an oxymoron.
Posted by atom1505
Member since Aug 2016
284 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:22 pm to
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you would be better off in the 6500 to 8000 range on finding a good 4.0 Auto ( you want a 03-06 if you are going auto, if possible)


Good to know. Different transmissions on those models?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:24 pm to
4 sp on the newer model vs 3 sp.

The 3speed in not bad, but sucks driving at any significant speed
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:28 pm to
You can find good condition jeeps from the late 90's/early 2000's in the $6 range, but once you add the automatic requirement and the lift, you're gonna be looking at something that may have mechanical issues for that price.

Think about this, with a 3"+ lift, the jeep will pretty much have to have 35" tires minimum. The tires alone, laying on the ground are about $1500+ new. Any decent lift in that range is over a grand in parts.

Just figure, if you're getting a jeep like that in that price range, you can plan on putting some money into it fairly soon.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:53 pm to
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Think about this, with a 3"+ lift, the jeep will pretty much have to have 35" tires minimum


It is a stretch to put 33s on a 3 inch lift. You'll have rubbing issues and you get into more complicated suspensions that are costly to run 35s.

I agree, find a bone stock one with the 4.0L and an automatic, upgrade as you can. FWIW, I bought my '04 TJ 5 years ago, and I was going to lift it, bigger tires, etc. It is still stock 5 years later. Unless you're taking it deep in the woods or on 4x4 trails, a stock TJ is very capable of most anything you can throw at it. I will eventually do some mods but for the time being it is a fun little vehicle, has been 100% reliable to me, and all I've had to do was routine maintenance like oil changes, new tires, and brakes.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27348 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Would it be possible to get a late 90s/early 2000's model for around $5000-$6000 in good shape?




No.

Don't buy modded.

Buy a early 2000s high mileage stock Rubicon.

Change tsp, a few leaking seals, radiator. Flush all fluids. Start modding. Cheapest most reliable route.

Posted by atom1505
Member since Aug 2016
284 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:11 pm to
Thanks for all the advice. These are the kinds of things I really wanted to know. I'm going to start looking for an early 2000s stocker in good shape. Any leads would be appreciated.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27348 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:16 pm to
Listen for rattle at start up.

A little is okay. A lot is a no no.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Any leads would be appreciated.


After looking at craigslist prices in LA, I'd say look out of state, they are high
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:58 pm to
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It is a stretch to put 33s on a 3 inch lift.


I disagree. Personal experience with 35's and a 3 inch lift. I have never experienced nor seen any evidence of rubbing and I do not have offset wheels.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12729 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 2:58 pm to
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After looking at craigslist prices in LA, I'd say look out of state, they are high


They're high here too. But they always are in the summertime. Buy one in the dead of winter that someone is tired of.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:09 pm to
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Personal experience with 35's and a 3 inch lift. I have never experienced nor seen any evidence of rubbing and I do not have offset wheels.




on a TJ or a JK
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12729 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:27 pm to
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on a TJ or a JK


Exactly. Stockers on a JK are roughly 32s. With a 3 inch lift you can run 35s on stock flares.

On a TJ, most of the 2.5-3.5 inch lift kits say 33 is max suggested. Obviously flat fenders or different flares can give you more clearance.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 5:35 pm to
Craigslist and Facebook have good deals. But one lightly used with lift, tires, etc already. Will be cheaper than buying and adding yourself.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34937 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:12 pm to
Bought mine for $100 although I got it from my grandpa... Like others have said, try to buy stock and do aftermarket yourself. Prices will be high because it's jeep season
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:00 pm to
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Would it be possible to get a late 90s/early 2000's model for around $5000-$6000 in good shape?



Not a Jeep guy, but the answer to this question is a hard no.
Posted by bayou choupique
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:25 am to
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you would be better off in the 6500 to 8000 range on finding a good 4.0 Auto ( you want a 03-06 if you are going auto, if possible) look for a jeep with no upgrades, first. you will spend more on the upgrades combined, but typically upgraded jeeps have more wear and tear


this....stay away from the 4 banger. don't go bigger than 33's, if you do that means more lift and possibilities for problems, re gearing, etc. soft tops are cheap and easy to install so don't worry about that. the 4.0L is a good engine, don't be afraid of one with over 100,000 miles on it. don't be afraid to look for used parts (lift, wheels, bumpers) on the web, people are always upgrading.
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