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re: I've about had enough with these Constitutional Ammendment jerkoffs
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:14 pm to Drummin Fool
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:14 pm to Drummin Fool
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I was with you on the need to desensitize the general public to the right for people to carry firearms if they choose, but then you stated the above. You really hate homosexuals and black people and any white people who like black people don't you.
Your papa must be the grand wizard, ain't he? And, he must be proud.
Here's why these conversations can't be civil. Someone gets their feelings hurt.
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Well he did lament interracial couples. Not sure why this is an issue and it certainly lends me to believe that meauxjeaux has some explaining to do. Not a personal flame.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:17 pm to meauxjeaux2
he sounds like the nerd from the simpsons. he seems like a douche. he wanted them to be rude when they really weren't.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:22 pm to TulaneUVA
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Well he did lament interracial couples. Not sure why this is an issue and it certainly lends me to believe that meauxjeaux has some explaining to do. Not a personal flame.
Many people (black, white, other) dislike interracial couples, it doesn't mean they are part of some secret racial society. Nothing wrong with calling someone out if you feel strongly about something but resorting to that kind of shite, it's going to devolve quickly.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
No I agree with you. That escalated quickly.
But my personal belief is that anyone who dislikes interracial couples (whether you are white, black, or whatever) on the pure basis of skin color has an element of racism and prejudice in them. Reasonable stance right?
Now if you want to argue differences in socioeconomic or cultural reasons I can buy it. You don't want your white daughter dating Some kid named Trayvon who grew up in north BR or some shite. I get it.
But my personal belief is that anyone who dislikes interracial couples (whether you are white, black, or whatever) on the pure basis of skin color has an element of racism and prejudice in them. Reasonable stance right?
Now if you want to argue differences in socioeconomic or cultural reasons I can buy it. You don't want your white daughter dating Some kid named Trayvon who grew up in north BR or some shite. I get it.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:32 pm to meauxjeaux2
I conceal carry and own many firearms and I'm also a proud member of the NRA, however this guy is a complete douche.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Many people (black, white, other) dislike interracial couples, it doesn't mean they are part of some secret racial society. Nothing wrong with calling someone out if you feel strongly about something but resorting to that kind of shite, it's going to devolve quickly.
Never going to get any sort intelligent discourse if one party begins from the supposition that the other is inferior due to surface characteristics, or who they bring into their bedroom. Six of one half a dozen of the other, none of it belongs in this conversation. Which is why this board is becoming OT Lite.
Horse shite. Civil liberties have been eroded to the point to where a large portion of the country is indifferent to accepting of the federal government ignoring privacy laws, killing citizens with remote control airplanes, and forcing a contract between producer and consumer and all some folks can think about is who their neighbor is fricking.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:42 pm to weagle99
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Dont go about it by scaring people and causing alarm to those that dont know any better
Well said, IMO.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:47 pm to hypnos
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Never going to get any sort intelligent discourse if one party begins from the supposition that the other is inferior due to surface characteristics, or who they bring into their bedroom.
I agree with this and generally ignore people who have those kind of feelings. If not, this place will go to shite.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 5:21 pm to weagle99
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Just because some people have 'evolved' into being scared of 'scary looking' inanimate objects
OK, this may be a too long for most people, but I figure this is the OB, not the OT where people have the attention span of about 3 seconds if its not a cop/military hate or WYHI/WOWYHI thread, so here goes...
Animals associate certain things with danger, i.e. a lion in Africa, or a shadow that looks wrong and gives them a funny feeling, like deer randomly and spontaneously taking off and running out of nowhere. Its how they stay alive.
Humans did the same thing, and evolved to what our biggest threat is today...other humans, more specifically other humans with weapons. I'm not arguing with you about the legality of it, I don't think any of us here are. However, I'm saying that you, and people like you wanting to "desensitize" the public to people with weapons, goes against fricking evolution.
The human mind has adapted to identify threats, like the strange guy hiding his hands in the back of the subway, or when you drive through the "bad neighborhood" and your alertness is automatically raised. The same goes for us guys that go to war, albeit more extreme, and come back dodging every pothole in the street, or changing lanes to get away from dead animals or cars on the side of the road, because doing that kept us alive and safe at war.
So when some random guy (legal or not) is standing on the street corner with a rifle slung across his back, or a pistol on his side, the normal human reaction is to respond to that threat in some way, you know, the whole fight or flight thing. Now, we have evolved as a species where fighting doesn't necessarily mean running you over with the car, it could be something as simple as calling the police to report it, or maybe they just flee and speed away or turning around. The completely abnormal thing to do is just walk/drive past it like there's nothing wrong. Yeah the guy(or gal) may not be doing anything illegal and just exercising his/her rights, but if you and your fellow "desensitizers" think that you will throw out thousands of years of evolution and eventually get the masses to see you toting a rifle around and just look the other way, you're sadly mistaken.
Maybe you do/will just look the other way when you see somebody like that, maybe it will work out for you, or maybe you'll end up like all those other animals that decided to "desensitize" and are now on somebody's wall (I mean that figuratively of course).
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blindly trusting government
Dude, this is the OB, nobody here trusts the government.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 5:28 pm to brass2mouth
Posted on 7/31/13 at 5:35 pm to brass2mouth
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Humans did the same thing, and evolved to what our biggest threat is today...other humans, more specifically other humans with weapons. I'm not arguing with you about the legality of it, I don't think any of us here are. However, I'm saying that you, and people like you wanting to "desensitize" the public to people with weapons, goes against fricking evolution.
I don't disagree with the idea that views change. My argument is that I don't think the all of the views on civilian ownership and display of guns have changed for the better, nor do I think they happened naturally.
Just a few decades ago (or less) it was not uncommon to see children / teens roaming around with guns. Some OB member might have even had a gun in the car on school property for after school hunting or target practice with no problems created. Today we have 'evolved' into a society where a kid is suspended for making a pop tart into the shape of a gun. To my mind that is regression, and I welcome efforts to fight that evolution.
In Boston after the marathon bombing the citizens there cheered a militarized police that forced them into their homes and conducted warrantless home searches. Those same people would scream to heaven to see a normal citizen walking around with any type of firearm. The citizens there are welcome to run their community as they see fit, however that mindset disgusts me to be honest.
I don't claim to have a perfect answer. I just want to see gun ownership and use become more accepted by a larger portion of the populace.
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thousands of years of evolution and eventually get the masses to see you toting a rifle around and just look the other way, you're sadly mistaken.
See above. The negative attitudes on guns don't go back thousands of years.
ETA: This topic should probably be in Political Talk.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 7/31/13 at 6:57 pm to weagle99
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and I welcome efforts to fight that evolution.
The world has changed. Like it, hate it....things aren't going back to the way they were. We can disagree in this and that's cool, but if people are doing this to change attitudes, it's going to do the exact opposite. The world isn't the same as it was 20-30 years ago.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 7:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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he world isn't the same as it was 20-30 years ago.
Ha, no doubt. Not all change regarding firearms has been negative. The easing of concealed carry options across the nation has been a good thing. Heller was a great change and there have been many other victories as well. The sunset of AWB with no real desire to re-implement was another great thing.
Nothing is static.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 7:24 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:yeah...nothing like only having the police being able to open carry without it being criticized...If you want that, then move to a communist bloc country...
Want that to be normal every day life? Move to Syria. I personally enjoy living in a civilized country where I dont have to be so heavily armed when out in public.
It seems it always comes down to that with the some LEO's...they want the common folk to have less capabilities...It makes them feel more superior/in control...that is why some become LEO's...
"When seconds matter, the Police are only minutes away"
Posted on 7/31/13 at 7:26 pm to weagle99
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My hope would be that the more often people see regular citizens carrying weapons the quicker they would get de-sensitized to it and become more accepting.
A citizen carrying a gun openly should be no different than a police officer.
^ ^ ^ THIS x infinity ^ ^ ^
Posted on 7/31/13 at 7:33 pm to Pepperidge
Stick to the topic. Nobody is against people open carrying weapons. It's being a douche with an AR type weapon slung across your chest while going for a Sunday stroll.
I have no problem with people arming themselves to protect them self and others. Having a rifle slung across your back makes you a target more than anything. In fact the gun would be a good handle for someone to grab you from behind and drag your arse down the street.
Some of you will defend stupidity to no end.
I have no problem with people arming themselves to protect them self and others. Having a rifle slung across your back makes you a target more than anything. In fact the gun would be a good handle for someone to grab you from behind and drag your arse down the street.
Some of you will defend stupidity to no end.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 7:33 pm to The Wolf
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sheeple
I find that most people who are douches, like our gun owner in the video, use this word.
You wouldn't be a douche, now would ya boy?
Posted on 7/31/13 at 7:39 pm to Pepperidge
When is the last time you saw a police officer walking down the street with an AR slung around his back for no apparent reason?
Posted on 7/31/13 at 7:42 pm to meauxjeaux2
Haven't really kept up with this thread but I'm willing to be there is a cop in here spewing hate on the guy in the video.
I wish these douche bags would lay low but I understand they are trying to gain attention. Some cops don't do their selves any favors by not knowing how to handle such a situation.
I wish these douche bags would lay low but I understand they are trying to gain attention. Some cops don't do their selves any favors by not knowing how to handle such a situation.
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