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Is it too early to start tomato seedlings for a fall garden?

Posted on 7/18/16 at 7:37 pm
Posted by lsu1987
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/18/16 at 7:37 pm
I have done this in the spring, but never in summer for a fall garden. I have seeds and jiffy peat pellets that have worked. Just not sure on timing and heat of summer. Thanks in advance for any expert opinion or experience.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 8:06 pm to
I had success with clipping some branches of summer tomatoes and sticking them in the ground to root. Several die but some live to be plants.

But to answer your question, no it is not too early. In fact, it may be getting late to start from seed.
Posted by Easternrio
Member since May 2014
3755 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 9:09 pm to
I got 4 fall tomatoes 2 ft tall baw
Posted by lsu1987
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
441 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 9:27 pm to
Thanks for the feedback
Posted by Wortivi22
Land of Mini Vans
Member since Dec 2007
855 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 9:58 pm to
Typically, starting from seed you will want to start in the month of June. You are not too late, but get going now.
FYI, I like the planting schedule from thebayougardner.com, or you can check the LSU Ag Extension website. I'm sure they would have a schedule there. The bayou gardener dude is alright, I like his you tube channel called webcajun.
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 10:40 pm
Posted by lsu1987
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
441 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:23 pm to
Thanks. Do you think once the seeds sprout that they need to be kept in shade until they get used to sun, just like in spring? Usually when it is colder, I will do jiffy seed starter indoors and move them outside after a period of time. They always say to protect young seedlings from sun until they "harden off"
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:41 pm to
the bayou gardner website set off holy hell in my chrome.

some virus alert. holy shite.
Posted by lsu1987
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
441 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:44 pm to
Checking out that website now on iPad. No problems .....
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17316 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Just not sure on timing and heat of summer.


Tomatoes don't seem to mind the heat as far as growing is concerned, they just won't set fruit if it's not dropping below 70F at night. If you're planting indeterminates it doesn't matter, let em rip. If you're planting determinants then try to match up their maturity days with when it will start to cool off.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12737 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:43 pm to
I think you're good on timing. My wife's grandpa gave me several seedlings a couple weekends ago and I got them in the ground behind my summer garden. I figure if half of them make it I'll have plenty to can.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:49 pm to
May be a dumb question, but why not just let my plants from the spring/summer continue to grow and produce in the fall?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17316 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:15 pm to
Not a dumb question. Usually when it gets hot and weeds take over the garden people just rip it up, but there's no real reason to. Certain types of vegetables (determinants) die after they produce a crop or bolt, but plenty of others will keep right on producing until frost kills them. I actually had pepper plants survive through the winter one year and they made like crazy the next spring.
Posted by Wortivi22
Land of Mini Vans
Member since Dec 2007
855 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Thanks. Do you think once the seeds sprout that they need to be kept in shade until they get used to sun, just like in spring? Usually when it is colder, I will do jiffy seed starter indoors and move them outside after a period of time. They always say to protect young seedlings from sun until they "harden off"


I usually do the same and wait until they harden. I will transplant at about 6" to 12" tall and even then, I put PVC arching over my raised bed and will drape shade cloth over it for the first week or so. It is probably overkill, but it has worked for me. I will also put the seed cups above ground and under the shade cloth for a while before actually transplanting. Compared to other comments, it is probably overkill, but I like working in the garden and mine isn't that big, so I don't mind it.

Oh, and Motorboat, sorry about the link. I have always browsed it with apple products, so no warnings on my end. Would not have posted if I had known.
Posted by lsu1987
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
441 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:34 pm to
My pepper plants(started from seeds) didn't do much this year, so I am hoping they survive the winter and produce a ton next spring!
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17316 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:40 pm to
Cover them when it gets really cold and they'll be fine. Peppers are notorious for being slow when started from seed, they spend half the growing season just putting on mass. You should also throw some epsom salt on them, it will make them go crazy and they'll probably produce well when it cools off a little this fall.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:18 am to
What else we you guys planting this fall and when?
Posted by lsu1987
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
441 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:42 pm to
Thanks for the tip on the peppers.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56009 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

What else we you guys planting this fall and when?


I like to plant a little patch of lettuce around mid-September...lets me see something green all winter and also gives me something to nibble on from time to time.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:06 am to
quote:

What else we you guys planting this fall and when?



Put some pumpkins, watermelons, corn, and beans growing really well. I cannot get my peppers or tomatoes to start.

I'll plant my lettuce, spinach, and kale in September.
Posted by lsu1987
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
441 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:48 am to
Will cucumbers grow in the fall?
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