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Is Coastal Restoration working?

Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:34 am
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:34 am
Is there a report card available on how we're doing? Any Before and After snapshots? Is Coastal Erosion slowing down?

Related: I'm also seeing some recent scuttlebutt about diverting dedicated BP funds from Coastal to Highway projects. LINK
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:44 am to
Depends on who you are asking. There is some well documented growth south of Morgan City.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:45 am to
Very little of the Costal Mater plan is actually in action at this time. Bad initial PR by the agencies, lack of recognizing local concerns, and a number of other issues have slowed the implementation of the parts of the plan that could actually make a significant impact.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:52 am to
They could knock down all the levees tomorrow and only slow it down, not stop it.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:56 am to
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They could knock down all the levees tomorrow and only slow it down, not stop it.
Hate to see our coast get whacked by Mother Nature and Man-made forces, but I can't help but think it's a well-intended exercise in futility when considering the enormity of the project vs. the resources available. It's a daunting task to say the least.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:10 pm to
There are too many hands in the cookie jar at this point, plus it's all private property.

There is a steadily growing number of people fishing in Louisiana. Couple that with shrinking public access, something is going to have to give. When you start having people like Biloxi Land Management bullying LDWF into passing laws, a precedent is set that could really screw over a lot of people.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:14 pm to
you can continue to thank the Corps of Engineers. Calling them short sighted is being nice.

but no, we will lose in the long run. Just a melting ice cube we are. Will eventually go back to what it was, water...
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:27 pm to
They need to share the blame with land owners and oil and gas companies for digging the exploration and transportation canals.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:58 pm to
There is a document out there, wish I would have saved it, but what is happening was predicted and sent out as a memo buy a ACOE employee back when the levees were built in the name of flood control. My point is, there was some amount of recognition by the department this would happen, but the extent was not understood or even believed by many.
Posted by MadtownTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2010
4204 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:26 pm to
The master plan is a gigantic screw up, too many people to pay to sit on their arse and document, not enough into projects. They should spend the rest of the money to blow up the auxiliary and old river control structures. The new delta that will be built at the mouth of the Atchafalaya mouth will offset coastal wetland loss.

The bird foot is gone, and if you read into a lil history of it, should never have built out as far into the gulf if it wasn't for the agricultural economy of the 17-early 1900s.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:37 pm to
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master plan is a gigantic screw up, too many people to pay to sit on their arse and document, not enough into projects


I can agree with this to some extent, but you still need a plan to execute something of this magnitude long term.

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if you read into a lil history of it

I have read more than a lil bit of history on it and there are more than one, two, or three screw ups. But that does not solve the problem we are faced with today.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:37 pm to
Not sure I'd ever buy land south of i10 east of Lafayette
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:56 pm to
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you can continue to thank the Corps of Engineers. Calling them short sighted is being nice.


Do you really know what the hell you are talking about. Fact is, we cannot do anything to stop much less reverse the tide of coastal erosion. Deal with it.

USACE does what it is told to do and given funding to do by the US Congress. Congress answers to the US populace. Blame the US populace.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:58 pm to
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They should spend the rest of the money to blow up the auxiliary and old river control structures. The new delta that will be built at the mouth of the Atchafalaya mouth will offset coastal wetland loss.


Sorry, but no. You should look into the estimated sediment load of the Red and Miss Rivers compared to historical averages. We lack sediment.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:03 pm to
Yes, Environmental leeches, politicians and connected contractors are getting rich. Working exactly as planned.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:06 pm to
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USACE does what it is told to do and given funding to do by the US Congress. Congress answers to the US populace. Blame the US populace.


Dude. I can't tell if you are serious or if you are trolling.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:24 pm to
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Fact is, we cannot do anything to stop much less reverse the tide of coastal erosion. Deal with it.
Thank you for saying it for me. Paramount to relocating the Rockies. It's simply beyond us - and has been since the beginning of time. I admire the ambitions and good stewardship, but man...
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:30 pm to
I don't disagree that it might be a lost cause, but letting it wash away really is not an option.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:33 pm to
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I don't disagree that it might be a lost cause, but letting it wash away really is not an option.


This can't be said enough times. Feels like we are screaming at the top of the mountain... or perhaps the bottom of the gulf...
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30234 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:36 pm to
It's a very interesting subject and a daunting task to achieve. I don't spend a heck of a lot of time in the marsh fishing, but do get out there once or twice a year. The last time I went on a chartered trip, the captain was showing us places that were now underwater that only a couple of years ago were large islands. It truly is sad to see how quickly we are losing our coast. I hope they somehow figure out how to DVR it but it doesn't look promising.
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