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I have a hypothetical question on the public/ private water debate.

Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:04 pm
Lets say there is a decent size river. This river has minimum commercial traffic and used by recreational boats to access camps. There is a land owner that owns property along one bank. In a high water event, the river changes course and now cuts across the landowner's property. Can the landowner now gate the new river course? Perhaps charge a toll to cross his property?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:05 pm to
No
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:06 pm to
That was quick...
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:07 pm to
Why not? It is private land
Posted by redneck
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:07 pm to
I'll cut that shite every weekend
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:09 pm to
Please see the law of avulsion
Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:09 pm to
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Why not? It is private land

Not after the hypothetical. The state would acquire the new river bottom and compensate the landowner with the land that composes the now dry bed.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Why not? It is private land




quote:

the river changes course


It's still the river.
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Lets say there is a decent size river. This river has minimum commercial traffic and used by recreational boats to access camps. There is a land owner that owns property along one bank. In a high water event, the river changes course and now cuts across the landowner's property. Can the landowner now gate the new river course? Perhaps charge a toll to cross his property?



i would imagine that would be a hell no.

If that was the case, i would think there would be tons of rivers that would have been manually manipulated to cross properties
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:12 pm to
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The state would acquire the new river bottom and compensate the landowner with the land that composes the now dry bed.


Who pays for that transfer?
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:15 pm to
Did this happen to you?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Did this happen to you?


This is hypothetical...
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:17 pm to
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wickowick


do you charge airplanes a toll for flying over your house?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

do you charge airplanes a toll for flying over your house?


That is nowhere close to the same thing...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

do you charge airplanes a toll for flying over your house?


I do. I just have issues with collection.
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:47 pm to
You gonna divert the diversion baw?
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 3:48 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:54 pm to
Shhh, all part of the master plan...
Posted by byutgr
Thibodaux
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:02 pm to
La. Civil Code Article 504 provides that when the navigable river or stream abandons its bed and opens a new one, the owner of the land where the new bed is located becomes the owner of the old bed. This is compensation for his land being taken as the new bed of the navigable stream. The new bed is a public thing under La. Civil Code Article 450 as it is the water bottom of a navigable water body.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:04 pm to
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La. Civil Code Article 504 provides that when the navigable river or stream abandons its bed and opens a new one, the owner of the land where the new bed is located becomes the owner of the old bed. This is compensation for his land being taken as the new bed of the navigable stream. The new bed is a public thing under La. Civil Code Article 450 as it is the water bottom of a navigable water body.


frick this state and its laws...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

frick this state and its laws...


And ours is the only one that does this shite!
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