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re: HR 391 (Water Access Rights) Passes 5-3 in committee
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:27 am to Cowboyfan89
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:27 am to Cowboyfan89
quote:They are private now and not accessible now. The current law and private property rights are lame excuses?
People are using lame excuses for why canals shouldn't be accessible by the public, regardless of how well a proposed bill is written or not.
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:27 am to Cowboyfan89
It is much easier to get away with in the marsh vs roadway. This bill also blurs the lines of trespassing
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:35 am to AlxTgr
No. Keep up here, or are you north Louisiana boys that bad at comprehension?
The argument I was addressing was that private deer leases would be ruined because of trespassing caused by making the canals public. How does a canal being public make trespassing in the marsh any worse than any where else in the state? It's still trespassing, because the law would not make the marsh public land. And the current law is not some magic deterent from trespassing on those currently private canals. I don't know many criminals, so i'll defer to you on this one, but is the criminal not going to trespass and steal your shite under the current law because he can't use that canal, but would if the canal is public?
You are the worst devil's advocate I have ever seen.
The argument I was addressing was that private deer leases would be ruined because of trespassing caused by making the canals public. How does a canal being public make trespassing in the marsh any worse than any where else in the state? It's still trespassing, because the law would not make the marsh public land. And the current law is not some magic deterent from trespassing on those currently private canals. I don't know many criminals, so i'll defer to you on this one, but is the criminal not going to trespass and steal your shite under the current law because he can't use that canal, but would if the canal is public?
You are the worst devil's advocate I have ever seen.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:38 am to Cowboyfan89
For the record, I really have no dog in this fight. I haven't fished the marsh in years, but I do find merit to the idea that some of those waters should be public.
But I find that some of the arguments from both sides are idiotic in the way they are presented, as if these problems don't occur anywhere else, and that there is no possible way to deal with them.
But I find that some of the arguments from both sides are idiotic in the way they are presented, as if these problems don't occur anywhere else, and that there is no possible way to deal with them.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:41 am to Cowboyfan89
Man arguing public access in Louisiana with these guys is like wrestling with a pig in mud, after awhile you'll realize they enjoy it. Also the landowners have the current law on their side and introducing any bill to change that will be like trying to stop any form of state or federal welfare. I'm not sure of the person who said this but he/she said that once you give something to someone trying to stop it will be near impossible because at some point it becomes their right or they feel they are entitled to it. Your energy will be better directed in getting in touch with your representatives and trying to craft bills to better define navigability in our state and then craft bills to address accessibility by the public similar to other states.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:41 am to AlxTgr
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It introduces the concept of conditional ownership. Nothing like that has ever existed in La. before. You can't come in here during waterfowl season, but you can outside of it.
People were so caught up in getting this bill onto the house floor that they couldn't see the forrest through the trees.
If all the people who were pro 391 would stop complaining and pool their resources we could buy or lease a lot of property and open access. I've tried for years to get some momentum going for a land acquisition project but it's a tough thing to get going when everyone thinks they should get it for free.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:41 am to Cowboyfan89
quote:Why do you do this? Do you have a diagnosis you aren't telling us about? I never mentioned trespassing.
or are you north Louisiana boys that bad at comprehension?
quote:
You are the worst devil's advocate I have ever seen.
Seriously, do you have friends you can consult on your behavior? When one is supporting the current status of the law, they are not playing the Devil's Advocate
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:42 am to xenon16
quote:
You think all of them are wealthy just because they own some land?
I own several acres of marshland and hell I find myself jacking off the dog to feed the cat more often than not, I can assure these clowns that not all of us marsh owners are “wealthy”.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:53 am to AlxTgr
You are absolutely and unequivocally the biggest pain in the arse to debate with. I was responding to bayoudude's post. You felt the need to dissect every word of my post, while not addressing a single thing I said in any manner other than sarcasm.
No one mentioned trespassing. That's my point. Somehow no one in these private marshes has any problem with trespassing now, but would have a world of trouble if these canals were made public. That's what I'm lead to believe, anyway, when people, like bayoudude, start posting about the proposed law and how their deer leases would be ruined due to trespassing. As if that problem does not exist anywhere else in the state.
No one mentioned trespassing. That's my point. Somehow no one in these private marshes has any problem with trespassing now, but would have a world of trouble if these canals were made public. That's what I'm lead to believe, anyway, when people, like bayoudude, start posting about the proposed law and how their deer leases would be ruined due to trespassing. As if that problem does not exist anywhere else in the state.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:03 am to Cowboyfan89
quote:You're debating? All I see is name calling and insults.
You are absolutely and unequivocally the biggest pain in the arse to debate with
quote:Because what you type here is so fricking dumb
while not addressing a single thing I said in any manner other than sarcasm.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:16 am to Cowboyfan89
quote:
Come on, man. I understand where ya'll are coming from, but you have to see the triviality of that argument. How is it any different from someone walking onto private land from a public road? The only difference is who built the road and who dug the canal.
First thing is, law enforcement on roads is way easier. There aren't enough LDWF agents to deal with current issues, much less opening up access and making things easier.
quote:
I just can't understand that argument. So what do people who own land on publicly accessible bayous do? Are they not dealing with trespassers?
Obviously you haven't owned or been a part of a place where high water leads people to believe that private land becomes public and they can just pop up a blind on their boat and begin hunting.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 11:41 am
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:16 am to AlxTgr
He’s a terrible poster.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:27 am to Redfish2010
Did you quit Candy Crush?
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:29 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
All I see is name calling and insults.
You insinuated that I have a health issue, and you're calling ME out for name calling an insults? Well I'll be dipped in a bucket of buttermilk! We got the pot calling the kettle black, now don't we?!
Sorry you got your feelings hurt because I questioned your reading comprehension. I'll be nicer next time.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:35 pm to Cowboyfan89
All of these waterways are going to be gone in 30 years anyway. Somehow every other state can manage this issue, but not Louisiana. Sort of a trend now...
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:38 pm to Cowboyfan89
Cowboy
Point is they would no longer be trespassing as the water would now be public. However they would be no less of a nuisance to the land owner trying to enjoy his slice of recreational heaven. Noisy radios and boat wakes, litter etc. most deer hunters in the marsh place their stands along the banks of these pipeline canals and marsh cuts and just look out over the grass fields. What happens now to alligator rights? If the water is public and I have a tag can I just go anywhere and stick a pole and start fishing? Opens up a whole can of worms that isn’t related to salt life stickers yeti ice chests and $100k bayboats. Seems to be that people just want to be able to fish anywhere there is water and don’t look at the land rights issue
Point is they would no longer be trespassing as the water would now be public. However they would be no less of a nuisance to the land owner trying to enjoy his slice of recreational heaven. Noisy radios and boat wakes, litter etc. most deer hunters in the marsh place their stands along the banks of these pipeline canals and marsh cuts and just look out over the grass fields. What happens now to alligator rights? If the water is public and I have a tag can I just go anywhere and stick a pole and start fishing? Opens up a whole can of worms that isn’t related to salt life stickers yeti ice chests and $100k bayboats. Seems to be that people just want to be able to fish anywhere there is water and don’t look at the land rights issue
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:26 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:Yes? I mean, how is a mental health issue an insult? It would assist us greatly in dealing with your bullshite if we knew what the diagnosis is.
You insinuated that I have a health issue, and you're calling ME out for name calling an insults?
quote:No, you won't.
I'll be nicer next time.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:32 pm to bayoudude
That's all there is to it. People dont like a gate across water that they want to fish in.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:40 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
This isn't fun anymore :(
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